Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tigran Grigorian


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of basketball players who have scored 100 points in a single game. J04n(talk page) 14:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Tigran Grigorian

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Per WP:BIO1E, this is a biography of a person known for one event, scoring 100 points in a basketball game. Neither the event nor the person has received WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. A Google News search shows a majority of hits around the event in February 2003, with only a trivial mention in 2010 when another basketball player scored 100. The subject is already a list entry in List of basketball players who have scored 100 points in a single game. At best, this can be a redirect to the list tagged with R to list entry. This single event is more suitable to be preserved at sister project Wikinews. —Bagumba (talk) 22:45, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 22:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Classic example of person whose notability is based entirely on a single event per WP:BIO1E.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:59, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep He currently holds the record in California. Proudbolsahye (talk) 23:40, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Proudbolsahye (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 23:52, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL, nor does significant coverage exist to meet WP:GNG either. Without coverage, the problem is that not much else encyclopedic can be written about him outside of what is essentially a news article.—Bagumba (talk) 23:56, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Per WP:ANYBIO: The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field. Tigran Grigorian definitely follows under the historical record category as the first person in California to score more than 100 points a game in high school basketball. Proudbolsahye (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, being one of several Americans to score 100 or more points in a high school basketball game in California is not necessarily "a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: He is not only one of the several Americans that did so...but the only Californian. Proudbolsahye (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Please note that the footnote at WP:ANYBIO says, "Generally, a person who is 'part of the enduring historical record' will have been written about, in depth, independently in multiple history books on that field, by historians." Please identify the in-depth coverage in multiple history books.—Bagumba (talk) 07:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of basketball players who have scored 100 points in a single game; subject has received coverage for one event, therefore the subject of this AfD clearly falls under WP:BLP1E and per BLP1E, a redirect is the common practice to the event. As the event itself is not individually notable, but the category is and a list exists for that category, redirect to the list. If the individual receives significant coverage for more than this single event, then the article can be recreated in the future; until then it is too soon for the subject of this AfD to have an article IMHO.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 15:01, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per ONEEVENT. The fact that he has been the only Californian to do this means absolutely nothing in terms of making it more notable. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Grigorian not only holds title to the most points scored in a high school basketball game, but he broke the record. As you well know, California in itself is notable and breaking a high school basketball record is no small feat. Especially when its record breaking. Proudbolsahye (talk) 10:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * "Grigorian not only holds title to the most points scored in a high school basketball game" – no, Danny Heater holds that record. "California in itself is notable" – irrelevant. "breaking a high school basketball record is no small feat." – debatable, that depends on the record in question. Granted, this particular one is a tough record to break, but state-level high school sports record holders are not notable by any criteria except whether that person passes general notability guidelines that extend beyond one event. This player does not, and is therefore non-notable. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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