Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Till We Meet Again (2015 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:55, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Till We Meet Again (2015 film)

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Subject fails WP:NOTFILM as is a non-notable independent film which has yet to be released (aside from a handful of film festivals). Per WP:NFF, an unreleased film is not notable unless the production itself is notable per WP:N. There is limited third-party coverage of the film and most of it is through film festivals. -- Non-Dropframe   talk   21:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - unfortunately this is a very common term and is the name of several movies, but I just can't find any coverage of this one. Nothing against indie films, but there should be some coverage of them to support notability.  —Мандичка YO 😜 23:16, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  01:38, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  01:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice toward a return when it gets some commentary and coverage, and as it HAS won some awards, possible coverage is a reasonable expectation. And, a festival release counts as release... television or theater is not a mandate.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. I dream of horses (T) @  06:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment and when a film title is a common phrase, we refine our searches to eliminate false positives. Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep The article has gotten further recognition and have been updated with stronger sources and news articles as well as an additional award at another festival. As *Dream of Horses mentioned "a festival release counts as release..." and I agree. This film has also notably relevance since the producer Johan Matton is an article that links to the film as for help to further information. It would be beneficial to keep the film considering it's relevance, notability and also since it's not an 'Orphan' article. Changingfilm22 (talk) 04:13, 25 May 2015 (UTC)ChangingFilm22


 * Keep ( duplicate !vote struck lavender |(formerly HMSSolent )| lambast  00:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)) The Artice is onces again updated with additional media attention from 3 sources:
 * Co-Producer and Lead actres Linnea Larsdotter is interview regarding the films sucess and regarding her part in it.
 * Article regarding Till We Meet Again in LT, Producer and Writer Johan Matton is interviewed regarding the process of producing the film.
 * Producer and Writer Johan Matton is interviewed by Brian DeCicco on the Pod Cast 'Boat Over Mountains' regarding producing his movie regarding funding the film and the process of filming Till We Meet Again abroad in Thailand. Soures found at Till We Meet Again (2015 film) - Changingfilm22 (talk)
 * , we don't list references in this way in an article. While it's acceptable here (at Articles for Deletion) to write that the actress gave an interview and the producer gave an interview, in the article you must use these sources to write the article. Also I've added COI tag as your username indicates you are affiliated with Changing Film Productions that produced this film. Please read about WP:COI. Thanks. —Мандичка YO 😜 12:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to Johan_Matton. Right now the film just isn't notable enough for an entry. It's shown at film festivals and won some prizes, but none that would really give notability per Wikipedia's guidelines. For example,the LAIFF Awards give away 50 awards per month (600 per year), which doesn't make it discerning enough for Wikipedia's purposes. Most film festival awards aren't notable enough to give even partial notability, let alone complete notability. As far as the interviews go, the podcasts are pretty much self-published sources, meaning that they undergoes little to no editorial oversight that Wikipedia could verify. Most things of this nature (blogs, podcasts, etc) are self-published and unusable. The Stagepool source initially looked like it could've been usable, but a quick check on the website shows that the site is also an employment board. A quick look at the article with GT shows that Mikkelä has used the page to advertise herself as an actress, which makes the article a WP:PRIMARY source at best. It's well within the site's best interests to interview an actress that has successfully gotten work, since they can use it to show other actors that they can use the site to get work as well. The only usable source looks to be the LT source but even then that's a pretty short article. Since none of the awards are the type that would merit a keep on that basis alone (and the usability of them to establish any notability is in doubt) and there's only one usable source, the only options here are to either delete the article or redirect it to Matton's article. I'd prefer redirecting since this would leave the article's history intact for if/when the film gains more coverage. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:40, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * KEEP or REDIRECT: I agree somewhat with Tokyogirl79, although I would keep or redirect to Johan_Matton. I do believe some articles are week and some of the awards are not of notable interest. The film holds some interest regarding it's production but most sources here are from IMDb and the Pod Cast interview alone. I find the article helpful for information regarding the film but would need further help regarding what is reasonable to keep on Wikipedia. The film is an American Independent film with awards and notable cast but no major news regarding the film has been released. Damon.S.H.Journalist (talk) 03:27, 28 May 2015 (UTC)Damon.S.H.Journalist — Damon.S.H.Journalist (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Non notable at this time, no significant independent coverage --nonsense ferret  23:55, 29 May 2015 (UTC)


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