Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tilly Smith (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep/No consensus to delete Discussion Divided on WP:ONEEVENT and international recognition but there is no consensus for deletion after a week. Although some improvements including clean-up and additionnal sources for verification would be appreciated. Merge preposals can be discussed in the talk page of the article.-- JForget 22:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Tilly Smith
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Young girl, who while heroic for actions, isn't anything more than a 15 minutes of fame issue. Jmlk 1  7  05:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep While it is slight vanity the subject matter is important, more for the "how you can help in a Tsunami" aspect than the article itself. PS I'm new so if this is a crappy reason... :S --D:J I J:D (talk) 05:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, she not only proved newsworthy, she was given international recognition. --Dhartung | Talk 05:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:ONEEVENT part of WP:BLP.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 07:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ONEEVENT does not apply here. She has received awards and had an asteroid named after her. This means that reliable sources have covered the person in more than 1 particular event.  ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦   Talk  20:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep or Merge Covered with a respectable amount of attention at a global level. As to whether Tilly Smith the individual can be safely extricated from the tsunami as a notable subject, that's trickier. Wisdom89 is right to call WP:ONEEVENT on this one. However, the actual provisions of the policy guard against a single-event "newspaper" people-of-the-moment (as in, local man cited as saving puppy from fire doesn't deserve an article). In contrast, the separate instances of public recognition to her achievements such winning awards, having things named after her, and giving speeches, constitute separate citable events in my opinion.
 * I've added a reference for an uncited award claim to prevent deletion per WP:LIVING. Estemi (talk) 07:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge the incident in itself is not notable but can be included in coverage of the event. Dreamspy (talk) 08:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - international recognition and an award sways it for me. Bardcom (talk) 19:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dhartung this is an internationally recognized person. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 20:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as above per WP:ONEEVENT. Eusebeus (talk) 21:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * keep Bardcom, Dhartung. JoshuaZ (talk) 02:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, but this is the girl that knew that the water leaving meant run like hell. AnteaterZot (talk) 18:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:BIO she is "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention." This girl has also received enough "coverage in reliable secondary sources". ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦   Talk  20:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


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