Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Burns (writer)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  TheSpecialUser TSU 14:20, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Tim Burns (writer)

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Non-notable entertainment industry worker. IMDB is the only reference, and it doesn't have the in-depth coverage. If there is any notability it's likely through Jacob Two Two Meets the Hooded Fang, but I'm not seeing in-depth coverage of Tim Burns (a lot of passing mentions though). Googling for sources is challenging since there are apparently two other actors called Tim Burns who already have pages and two other Tim Burns's who are writers (but don't yet have wikipedia articles). Stuartyeates (talk) 06:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 19:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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 * I think the page should be kept, Tim Burns's credits speak to the notability of who he is. And as you said Stuartyeates, there are a lot of people named Tim Burns and it's going to be hard to differentiate them all from this particular Tim Burns. But his credits should just be a first step, there is a lot of research that needs to be done. I'm sure he has interviews somewhere on the net, the time just needs to be taken to search. But his credits are a step in the right direction. This page shouldn't be deleted solely based on it's notability.--PaulaSVU (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, I've come across many worse articles here on Wiki using only IMDb as a source. Tim Burns is very common in the TV/film industry sadly, the only answer I can come up with is do some heavy duty "Googling" on Tim Burns and even his projects, maybe he's done some BTS stuff in the past his career stretches back to the late 80s so I wouldn't expect to find too much on those projects, those after 2001 will likely come up in search engines more. As it's been said there are other people named "Tim Burns" so it's going to be difficult to distinguish between this writer and the actors. I think the page should stay and Wiki users in the future need to make sure nothing is added to this without a credible source. Examples of that being Burns' birthdate/place, whole name, marriage/partner, etc. - his personal info and anything he might be involved with in the future that has yet to be released. 172.129.125.220 (talk) 01:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep based on WP:CREATIVE item 3. He had a significant role as the writer in adapting Jacob Two Two Meets the Hooded Fang.  This is attested to by his award wins and nomintations.  I realize that IMDB is not a reliable source, but these should be easily sourceable.  His work on the film is also called out in this Variety review.  He is also the creative force behind My Babysitter's a Vampire as demosntrated by this article. -- Whpq (talk) 13:49, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, room for improvement I mostly edited this to add asterisks to everyone's responses I'm not even bothering to log in. -  But it's an established fact that IMDb isn't exactly kosher when it comes to information such as birth dates/places and information such as that.  -  But when it comes down to credits, it's probably the only thing you can take and run with from that site.  -  I remember seeing Tim Burns as supervisory writer in the 2005 season of Crank Yankers, he wrote/acted and did soundtrack work in Freaked, and of course he's one of the developers and executive producer on the show My Babysitter's a Vampire (TV series) and he has an interview with someone on the Fresh TV site here, he mentions that he wrote one of the main characters of the movie/show with his [geeky] background. -- 66.217.112.3 (talk) 18:48, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'd just like to remind editors that the consensus at WP:IMDB is that IMDB is generally not suitable as a reliable source. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - It isn't and I acknowledged it as such. But having said that, it's a jumping off point for research.  This confirms the Genie nomination. -- Whpq (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep While the sole reliance on the IMDb is a problem, I would prefer to err on the side of caution and see if additional sources, such as the one cited by Whpq, could be located. I see no compelling reason to rush this to deletion. And Adoil Descended (talk) 00:43, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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