Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Etchells


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Tim Etchells

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Subject is shown to exist but does not appear to be notable. His art has not influenced anything, as far as it can be determined, and he does not appear to be notable as an academic. —Ryulong (琉竜) 22:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep yes the article looks conflicted, artists are difficult to judge but from what I can see from his contributions to the Guardian, and various authored books, he appears to be in the public eye and therefore notable. Barney the barney barney (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep there a couple ways to approach this prolific artist. Probably the easiest is per WP:CREATIVE "played a major role in co-creating .. collective body of work, that has been the subject of .. independent periodical articles or reviews." Since Forced Entertainment has been around since 1984, it should not be difficult to turn up reviews of their theater productions. The most recent play is Tomorrow’s Parties (October 2013) written and directed by Tim Etchells with reviews in Counterfeit Magazine,The Stage, The Scotsman, The Guardian. This is just one play. BTW I restored the list of plays to the article which were deleted by the nom as "unimportant". He has also written books which are reviewed: Modern Drama, New Theatre Quarterly etc.. he also seems have significant exhibitions, which is important for CREATIVE #4. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 08:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Forced Entertainment is not a notable entity. Also, the lists that were added to the article were horribly malformated.—Ryulong (琉竜) 10:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * So fix it. Did you even read WP:AfD? Because you don't seem to have considered how to improve the article or to have done any research to establish whether the subject is notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:36, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It reads like someone who is deeply involved or invested in the subject has been attempting to spruce up the article to inflate the presence of the subject in his field when he does not appear to meet WP:GNG at first glance, particularly because of the COI reasons.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep It is in reviewing and denying my Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Forced Entertainment that I believe has brought Tim Etchells to the attention of the nominator. You will find plenty of refs for reviews etc of Forced Entertainment theatre productions in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Forced Entertainment. -Lopifalko (talk) 09:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Easily meets WP:CREATIVE. The Broken World has multiple reviews. Subject of articles in major art magazines. And other press and academic coverage of a wide range of ventures including a book by a major London publisher about him and 4 other leading playwrights. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - likely to have created at least one notable performance or event, based on the reviews already found. There may still be a job to do making clear links between his artistic input and some of the activities. However, he's received an honorary doctorate and another significant award which, to me, indicates enough notability. Sionk (talk) 17:17, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep An honorary doctorate is a rare enough honor. --Randykitty (talk) 18:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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