Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Louis (musician)


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The result was delete. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:51, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Tim Louis (musician)

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WP:BLP of a musician and politician, featuring exactly zero reliable sourcing. A non-winning election candidate does not get a Wikipedia article on that basis, but may have an article only if you can properly source that he was already eligible for an article for some other reason before he became a candidate — so we have to entirely discount the political run, and evaluate him solely on the basis of whether he passes WP:NMUSIC or not. But the musical career is sourced exclusively to his own self-published website, his three albums were all self-released as far as I can tell from the info given on the website (thus not satisfying NMUSIC #5), and the claims of having performed for political dignitaries are entirely unverifiable in any reliable source coverage of him. I just did a ProQuest search, using extra search terms such as "jazz" or "musician" to weed out hits on Tim Louis the Vancouver city councillor — and that got me five hits, of which four were still about Tim Louis the Vancouver city councillor, and the one hit left over that was referring to Tim Louis the jazz musician was just a glancing namecheck in an article that wasn't about him. So the RS coverage of his music that it would take to make him eligible for a Wikipedia article simply is not there. A musician does not get a Wikipedia article just because it claims notability for him — a musician only becomes eligible for a Wikipedia article if and when you can properly source that they pass NMUSIC for something. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 04:06, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:19, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as perhaps questionably notable for the applicable notability guidelines. SwisterTwister   talk  05:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

http://www.timlouis.com/newsarchive.php?cat=news - His website shows more than a sufficient amount of performance pieces, showing his fame as a Canadian Jazz Musician. This article should stay... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalObserver (talk • contribs) 18:24, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as not notable. By the way, there's some very close paraphrasing in the personal life and early music career section. For example, the cited source contains this sentence, which appears almost word for word in the WP article: "Born in New Jersey, Louis first studied under jazz great Kenny Barron, earning a BA in Music from Rutgers University before moving to the New York scene, eventually working alongside the iconic Teo Macero." HazelAB (talk) 18:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


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