Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Sims (gridiron football) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  01:36, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Tim Sims (gridiron football)
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I can't find any evidence that Mr Sims ever played professional football. Previously discussed at AfD in 2009 here, leading to "no consensus". —S Marshall T/C 23:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 23:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: American football, Canada,  and Florida.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, I'll note that failing NGRIDIRON alone is not a reason to delete. Per NSPORTS, which it is a part of: Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I voted "Keep" in the 2009 AfD, but frankly I'm not seeing it. The sources cited in the article (and referenced in the first AfD) appear to be passing mentions that do not constitute WP:SIGCOV with in-depth coverage of Sims from reliable, independent sources. Based on my current view of the guidelines, this fails WP:NGRIDIRON (did not actually play in one of the specified pro leagues) and WP:NCOLLATH (none of the specified awards). My searches turned up this piece of SIGCOV regarding his high school career, but without more, it's not enough to get Sims over the GNG bar. If others find more SIGCOV, I'm willing to reconsider. Cbl62 (talk) 01:14, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I seem to recall that he was working in to the CFL at the time of the last AFD with the Montreal Alouettes. My search capabilities are inconclusive there and I'm not ready to take a position.  I was also on keep last time, but I'll hold back for some more research.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:50, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you are correct, Paul. He may have been on a CFL roster at the time of the first AfD, but if in the end, he never appeared in a regular season game, he doesn't get the benefit of a presumption of notability. Cbl62 (talk) 02:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I just would like to let the AFD run its course so we can research properly and determine.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood. Likewise, I will keep an open mind if others find more SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 02:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 04:29, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, this looks like it could be SIGCOV. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete we should not be signposting articles with "local person makes the area proud" type articles. That is not enough to justify having an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:03, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete Agree that purely local human interest stories for athletes shouldn't count towards GNG. Found one article about a play he made while at Stanford but I'd still say it falls short of the significant coverage one would expect from an athlete that warrants a Wikipedia article. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:14, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Can anyone find the Scout.com article that's cited in the page (the current one is a dead link)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This might be it, but it's behind a paywall. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 16:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


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