Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Toni


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The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 10:07, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Tim Toni

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Unable to find reliable references to support claims of notability; claims "award winning" but no specific awards mentioned. Three references are to IMDb, a source considered unreliable. Multiple Google News hits for "Tim Toni" as a writer for The Sydney Morning Herald, but none on Toni himself, or any indication that they are the same person. Fails WP:CREATIVE. Seattle (talk) 14:54, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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The reasons given for deletion don’t make sense:

Sara Dundas (talk) 10:00, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * the first sentence of the article cites a specific award: the AACTA Award for Best Reality Television Series
 * the AACTA Award for Best Reality Television Series has a wikipedia page which states that Tim Toni won the award for Masterchef Australia (series 4) in 2012
 * the Tim Toni article doesn’t state that he’s a journalist with the ‘The Sydney Morning Herald’ so why is that relevant?
 * google ‘Tim Toni Masterchef Australia’ or ‘Tim Toni Big Brother’ and you get a significant number of hits

— Sara Dundas (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I've found one reference on him:, excluding The Sydney Morning Herald author pages. Your last point echos WP:GOOGLEHITS. Can you explain how Toni meets WP:CREATIVE? Seattle (talk) 15:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

The aim of the award he won is to 'identify, award, promote and celebrate Australia's greatest achievements in film and television'. I take that as being indicative of a creative personSara Dundas (talk) 08:21, 1 December 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete the award in question was shared with several others and does not appear to impart instant notability on its own. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep The above comment is incorrect.  The 2012 award was for Tim Toni only.  The 2013 award was for the team behind Masterchef Professionals.  The award does impart notability in that it celebrates Australia's greatest achievements in film and television' - a media industry does exist outside the USALiam Pearson (talk) 08:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC) — Liam Pearson (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * What on earth are you talking about? He didn't win in 2012, David Gardner and Matthew Kowald did, for The Amazing Race Australia, confirmed on the AACTA site.  Making stuff up isn't helping your case one bit. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:07, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * He did win the award in 2012 - not sure why you think that isn't true as it is cited on notable awards that even appear on wikipedia? He won for  MasterChef Australia (series 4) as can clearly be seenLiam Pearson (talk) 18:39, 11 December 2014 (UTC) Here's a non wikipedia link  Liam Pearson (talk) 18:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Apologies. He was nominated in 2012, won in 2013.  Doesn't detract from his achievements in televisionLiam Pearson (talk) 07:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, it does detract from them, as the primary claim of notability here and in the article has now been proved false. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  14:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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