Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Truman (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. This is a WP:BLP currently unverifiable through reliable sources. The notability issue aside, policy mandates its deletion until such time as reliable sources are provided to make the substance of the article even verifiable.  Sandstein  08:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Tim Truman (musician)

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I'm not sure that all composers of music for television are inherently notable, and the sources on this article do not meet WP:RS. Prod removed by User:Srobak with the comment, "Undid revision 468802251 by FisherQueen (talk) rather than PROD an article of a noteworthy individual - use the effort to improve it," but I remain unconvinced that this person is notable, so I offer the article to the community for discussion. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per lack of any WP:RS, I don't know about the inherent notability either but going on sourcing alone there's nothing much. tutterMouse (talk) 14:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep as he is cited with compositions of over 30 notable movies and television shows at IMDB alone - including theme music and he has written music for other notable recording artists. There are more than a handful of sources to this effect out there (in order to find them you at least have to look) and I will work on improving the article in the coming few days - I do not have the time to do it right now however.  It would also serve to better the project if instead of deleting a notable article - try contributing to it. Srobak (talk) 16:04, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sad. I felt like I was entirely polite at all points when looking at this unpatrolled article- I looked for better sources, used a prod rather than a speedy tag to allow time for others to find better sources, and, when you removed my tag, I contacted you on your talk page first, and only sent it to AfD when your contributions showed that you'd been on-wiki for several hours and seen my message but not responded to it. You, on the other hand, have, I think, failed to assume good faith by assuming that I didn't bother to look for sources, by implying that I am too lazy to improve a weak article, and by putting a {sofixit} template on my talk page instead of communicating clearly with me. Now I feel sad.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not respond to messages, comments or questions at at your behest, nor do I operate or conduct myself on WP according to your schedule. If and when I have the time to dedicate to improving an article through the extensive research and citation necessary I will do so, however - that will not preclude me from halting an unfounded and unnecessary prod/afd until such time at which it can be improved upon. My communication was clear - if you see a problem with an article on WP then work on improving it. No need to unnecessarily detract from it, and certainly not to clutter an afd with over-analytical, non-applicable musings. Srobak (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Notability is not inherent, but at a certain point it can be safely presumed. The composer who took over Miami Vice from Jan Hammer and went on to be composer on Melrose Place and Charmed &etc. is probably past that point, though he seems to keep a low profile and had his highest point of notability before the internet age, making sources hard to come by. There is however "World Views", Keyboard, Vol. 15, No. 9, Issue #160, September 1989 (pp. 22–25) and significant detail in the May 1989 Recording Engineer/Producer (p. 38), both regarding Miami Vice. So i'm fine with an article that's verifiable from primary sources in this case, since the subject can be presumed notable. 86.44.31.213 (talk) 23:03, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 07:14, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep I created the article partly motivated by the need to discern between Tim Truman and Timothy Truman (as noted in the article itself) – there is some confusion between the two Trumans around the internet, and I think Wikipedia would be a great place for learning the difference. Jaknudsen (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 13:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:N and WP:BIO. I can't find significant coverage of him in reliable sources, nor has he impacted his field in a notable way or won any important awards.  Them From  Space  02:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sources were already found above. 89.100.194.85 (talk) 13:03, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.