Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Wilson (filmmaker)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Tim Wilson (filmmaker)

 * – ( View AfD View log  •  Stats )

Non-notable actor lacking Ghits and GNEWS of substance. Appears to fails WP:BIO. Of the references included most are just listings, others are dead links or appear to be a PR notification, and others are interviews (primary reference). References to awards do not mention subject won an award or the awards are not major in nature. I do not see non-trivial coverage. Primarily a promotional piece. red dog six (talk) 15:48, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * links to awards HTML have been change by both sites due to changes by content holder. Information on awards still exist on sites and will be relinked. Subject is not promotion however the precedence for inclusion happened from the success of the film paparazzi eye I'n the dark which had tremendous impact On the genre of African cinema Due to his part I'n it. Name was changed to tim Wilson film maker . It should still read black magic tim cinematographer as this is the name he is known by and specialty he has been most noted forDustyairs (talk) 16:25, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * also note his evolvement I'n nollywood set historical precedences. Please google black magic tim nollywood.Dustyairs (talk) 17:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 21:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 21:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * please see African post news paper cites recently posted. 2 separate nationally printed newspapers covering tim wilsons involvement I'n paparazzi, awards won and impact of film I'n nollywood174.255.16.48 (talk) 04:30, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, the sources are tangential, promotional or otherwise unreliable. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment, to call the sources promotional and unreliable is very insensitive to African media. The very fact is has any movement into American media is due largely to the success of the film paparazzi and the involvement of Tim Wilson, Who raised the standards of an entire genre to be a viable quality to even be placed In limited release In USA and Africa. Especially the silverbird theater In Ghana which only plays USA films . This cross over is due largely to him and is very notable. To exclude him from wiki is to exclude the film "Paparazzi eye in the dark", and to exclude the category of nollywood "the cinema of Africa" category as a whole. Why have a category where you cant even add major news covered by several sources and the key people involved. Can you name any African A list Actors or the top Nollywood films? If the answer is no, this is the main reason why this info is crucial. What film salutes the efforts of the cinematographer and editor over the director? Also the nominator of the deletion merged the title from Black Magic tim (cinematographer) to Tim Wilson (filmmaker) thus reducing his pertinent involvement. and several cites were also deleted, Instead of eliminating crucial historical information moderators should be finding ways to include and better the articles not eliminate.


 * The African Post links alone are a nationally printed newspaper available In newsstands across the USA. He has 3 articles In 3 separate editions. This alone should validate his notability and should not be considered trivial, promotional or not unreliable. African Movie Academy Award is equivalent to the academy awards In Africa an is the highest award ceremony In African film making. An article in the AMA awards should not be considered lightly and list the film as a "classic Nollywood movie". He is listed in the Who's WHo in the nollywood database. The links below are not considered trivial in the African community.
 * http://www.modernghana.com/music/16802/3/paparazi-movie-premiers-tomorrow-at-silver-bird.html Modern Ghana mentions Tim Wilson As "cinematography and editing by American filmmaker Black Magic Tim"
 * http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=42980 USA Article
 * http://issuu.com/afrikanpost/docs/september_2011_part_3. Both Front Page and page 31
 * http://www.modernghana.com/music/16747/3/nollywood-film-with-american-appeal-makes-historic.html
 * http://filmclique.com/2011/is-paparazzi-eye-in-the-dark-a-nollywood-game-changer/
 * http://www.modernghana.com/music/16746/3/van-vicker-and-tchidi-chikere-to-appear-at-the-sil.html
 * http://www.ghanalinx.com/2011/12/08/paparazzi-eye-in-the-dark-movie-premiere-in-ghana-dec-9th-2011/
 * http://beeafrican.com/pt/Van-Vicker--Paparazzi--EYE-IN-THE-DARK-Movie-Review/blog.htm
 * http://www.ama-awards.com/news/coming-america-going-nollywood Dustyairs (talk) 00:40, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The above links are not considered trivial in the African community, but they are in the Wikipedia community.  red dog six  (talk) 16:18, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The links above Should not considered trivial in the african community or wikipedia community. I have presented references that meet wikipedia standards. Another page that you nominated for deletion was just accepted using some of the same references View AfD "JJ Bunny". How can they be trivial to one article and not other? And how can a National Printed newspaper like the African Post be considered trivial? Dustyairs (talk) 00:49, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * KEEP, please refer to WP:BIAS We need more diverse viewpoints on topic before haphazardly arriving at a conclusion based on demographic sensitivity Dustyairs (talk) 03:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The article you cite is an opinion that may or may not represent the widespread norm. Rather than talk about bias, how about providing adequate references that meet Wikipedia standards?  red dog six  (talk) 16:18, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Comment Please see very simular case that just got accept using same cites in the same genre View AfD the deletion of JJ Bunny was overturned Dustyairs (talk) 22:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That has no bearing on this AfD. Each article must stand on its own merits.   red dog six  (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * comment Black Magic Tim has a Headline exclusive on him in Golden Icons (Deemed Creditable by Wiki Standards) and is notable impact on Nollywood http://www.goldenicons.com/2012/07/12/black-magic-tim-nollywood/ Dustyairs (talk) 14:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.