Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tina Bell


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 11:23, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Tina Bell

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:MUSICBIO. Google search (even for "Bam Bam Band Washington" turned up almost no results. Article cites absolutely no references or sources, and is completely empty aside from the infobox. MB298 (talk) 02:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete by all means as there's even hardly much here not even to suggest minimal general notability and I see why MB298 tagged it as A7. SwisterTwister   talk  00:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's an argument from the article's creator, posted on Talk:Tina bell, which I transferred to Talk:Tina Bell. MB298 (talk) 02:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

This page should not be speedily deleted because...

I'm new to this, that being said, Tina Bell is a viable page. She died a couple of years ago, and we are using the page to help promote her musical contributions and authorship in the forming of the grunge sound. if you look at some of the references we have already listed, you will see that the drummer, Matt Cameron (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam) played in her band, Bam Bam, before her leaving the group and his moving on to play with other bands, ultimately leading to his success.

Her son, TJ Martin, is the first African American to receive an Oscar as a "director for documentary film", Undefeated, of which we are using some of his articles as her references, but most of the journals written about Tina are on microfilm (Seattle Post Intelligencer, and The Rocket newspapers) due to the years the band was active, and the sale or closing of both news journals. It will take me the weekend to get that information and figure out how to include it as a viable source.

I hope this is enough info to submit for an extension for this page. MB298 (talk) 02:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 07:20, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or move to draft space. There isn't enough here yet to meet our inclusion criteria for musicians.  I spent a bit of time trying to find sources, but I couldn't find anything significant.  Although Bam Bam gets a few trivial mentions throughout digitized sources on Google Books, Bell herself isn't mentioned.  Since the article is (or at least was) under improvement and there's a credible claim that offline sources exist (MB298 copied the post above from the article's talk page), I think we should at least consider the possibility of moving it to draft space, where the interested editors can work on establishing notability.  Right now, the best it's got is inherited notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


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