Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tindale-Oliver & Associates, Inc.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. There is plenty of evidence that the company exists; however, the reliable sources consulted, while mentioning what the company does, are mainly talking about projects that the company are involved with rather than directly about the company itself. A good number of sources are locked behind pay-to-view, so there may be other sources available which could be used to create an appropriate article. As written, the article shows borderline notability for the company, and what tips this over to deletion is that the community are uncomfortable with the manner in which the article is presenting the company - in particular that the article appears to be written in a promotional manner rather than a neutral, informative manner. The company may be notable enough for a Wikipedia article, but not as currently written.  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  01:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Tindale-Oliver & Associates, Inc.

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No claim of notability made. Also appears to be WP:ARTSPAM - one of the major contributors, User:Tindaleoliver, clearly has a vested interest, and the other, User:Mchaumont, seems to be almost entirely devoted to raising the profile of the company on Wikipedia. Bazonka (talk) 19:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This may explain who User:Mchaumont is: Bazonka (talk) 23:21, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

[WP:COMPANY] Steven Tindale, P.E., AICP is a widely recognized expert on impact fees. William Oliver, P.E., P.T.O. is a recognized expert on Florida’s growth management issues and was appointed in 2009 by Governor Charlie Crist to serve on the growth management committee. Both have authored articles and white papers that have appeared in transportation publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tindaleoliver (talk • contribs) 12:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you actually read WP:COMPANY (and the rest of Notability (organizations and companies))? I quote: "Wikipedia editors should not create articles on commercial organizations for the purpose of overtly or covertly advertising a company", and "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources". On this latter point, the references within the article do not seem to show sufficient notability, and a good number were written by Tindale-Oliver itself. Bazonka (talk) 18:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

 Note that there is an absolute bucket-load of spammy redirects to this article too, which should also be deleted if and when the article goes. Bazonka (talk) 23:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - blocking role account forthwith. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete- per WP:ARTSPAM. Stubbleboy 23:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.