Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tinker to evers to chance

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep and fix caps. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:00, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Tinker to evers to chance
It's about a group of players for the Chicago Cubs. Add the facts to the players' aricles and the Cubs article, but delete this one. Gazpacho 05:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean it up. Notable and encyclopedic. They got 803 hits on google. This is what I found: Chicago Cubs double play combination from 1903-10; immortalized in poem by New York sportswriter Franklin P. Adams—SS Joe Tinker (1880-1948), 2B Johnny Evers (1883-1947) and 1B Frank Chance (1877-1924); all 3 managed the Cubs and made the Hall of Fame. Svest 05:53, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up. I'm from Australia and I've heard of this. Notable part of baseball culture. Capitalistroadster 07:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, rename to the properly capitalized title, and expand. This is notable, but the article needs a lot of work.  Currently, the properly capitalized version, Tinker to Evers to Chance, redirects to Chicago Cubs, and the information contained there is far more complete than that presented on the page about the trio. NatusRoma 12:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC) (whoops, forgot to sign)
 * I've just rewritten it completely and therefore think it should be Kept now. If it survives, it should go to the capitalized version and this one redirected, or vice versa. But I didn't want to redirect without the vfd procedure, etc. Ben-w 07:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems like a good enough article.   &mdash; J I P | Talk 07:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename. Postdlf 09:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable saying from baseball. -- Smerdis of Tlön 15:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is considered an important piece of baseball lore. --Mitsukai 16:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename to Baseball's Sad Lexicon (the actual title of the poem) with Tinker to Evers to Chance as a redirect. Virtually everyone with even a passing interest in baseball knows of this quote. (It's unlikely that Joe Tinker would have made it into the Hall of Fame had the poem not been written.) Firebug 20:03, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and Rename as directed by Firebug. I knew it was a line from a poem, now I know which. Demi T/C 22:49, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable saying. I know it, and the poem, and I'm not much of a baseball fan. (Not completely sure about Firebug's suggestion because "Tinkers to Evers to Chance" is in fact much better known than "Baseball's Sad Lexicon," i.e. I think the latter should redirect to the former, not the other way around, but...) Dpbsmith (talk) 00:47, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Right now, Tinker to Evers to Chance is redirected to Chicago Cubs. Remove the redirect, and move this article there.  Don't name it Baseball's Sad Lexicon because, as dpbsmith said, nobody knows it as that.  RickK 05:10, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
 * Capitalise title --Henrygb 14:29, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename to Baseball's Sad Lexicon (the poem's title), make both this and Tinker to Evers to Chance redirects to it. Grutness...  wha?  07:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
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