Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobi (1978 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. NorthAmerica1000 00:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Tobi (1978 film)

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Article does not have any Reliable sources to establish notability, and does not seem to meet WP:Movie. There is nothing in the article except a plot summary and no claim to notability or significance. - McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:48, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep because there appears to be numerous Spanish-language search results in Google Books here. I ask anyone fluent in Spanish to review these results and share their findings. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 17:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I decided to look at the Spanish Wikipedia, there was a article under the same name back in 2009 but was deleted due to copyright violations. The lack of article on the Spanish Wikipedia is not an argument for the deletion here, however it should offer some insight into the significance of the film if the native language wiki doesn't even have an article on this film.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * We have to consider recentism too. Wikipedias of any language will be skewed toward twenty-first century films, so films that predate the Internet will be much less covered unless they are seminal films. This film seems to pop up in quite a few search results that I suspect that an article is likely warranted, but it would help to know what the results say exactly. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 17:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks like Variety has an English-language review of the film as evidenced here, but it is not available online. It shows up in Variety's archives here. This would be a pretty good point in favor of notability. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * These look more like listings of what's currently playing, I don't have a subscription to look more directly at the articles but from the synopsis you have linked it looks more like casual mentions and IMDB type listings not extensive coverage or actual reviews of the film. Hopefully we can get more people involved in this discussion that may actually speak Spanish and may have an account on the variety archive site.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 20:44, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep. The Variety review identified above appears to be a strong indicator of notability. Another review, according to Google Books snippets, is apparently present in the magazine Bohemia, Issues 36-44. The director Antonio Marcero has been the subject of multiple books, eg. El humor y la emoción: el cine y la televisión de Antonio Mercero by Carlos J Plaza and José Luis Rebordinos and Antonio Mercero, 25 años de cine by Mikel E. Sánchez, and so it is reasonable to assume there is some reliable significant coverage in these books too. A tough one, but ultimately a keep for me. Cavarrone 21:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:09, 18 December 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 11:23, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep It has been established above that enough reliable sources exist to merit keeping this article. The next step here is to take those sources and improve the article from its current state of a plot summary. Tavix | Talk  04:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)




 * Keep meets WP:NF through sources available even if not used. It is rare that we delete something that simply needs some editorial attention to benefit the project and its readers. Being WP:UGLY does not mean it has to go. WP:NOTCLEANUP. WP:WIP. WP:DEADLINE.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 08:37, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.