Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Burman


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The result was   redirect to Juke Kartel. v/r - TP 15:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Todd Burman

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Autobiographical article about a musician of questionable notability outside the group Juke Kartel. Majority of the major claims are unreferenced, sourced to the subject's personal website, or are references about the band, with no mention of Burman. MikeWazowski (talk) 21:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

To whom it may concern. My name is Todd Burman, I have been trying to do a site on wikipedia. I am trying my absolute best to upload information about myself on this page. I am new to Wikipedia and am only trying to do my best to create this and am the actual person. The content I have been providing is true and I have am performer at the highest level. There are hundreds of articles online mentioning me by name and my achievements including winning awards with the band Juke Kartel and me being one of the main songwriters for that band. I am happy to prove this with my writing societies across the globe able to prove this. All statements are of fact on my personal website including PROOF of work in the field of writing and performing all are which are copyrighted and logged with my applicable writing societies.

As I have mentioned I am doing my best to site references and outside articles that name me by name. I have collaborated on multiple records and toured with the best in the business and believe to be worthy of inclusion on this site.

Todd Burman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.65.40.2 (talk) 22:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Todd, this process questions and seeks discussion regarding your notability with regard to justifying the existence of a Wikipedia article. As you have probably deduced that can be somewhat harrowing for the living! Do understand that by not directly editing autobiographically and avoiding any perceived or real conflict of interest you can avoid being in this undesirable position. An editor has given you a lot of useful information on your talk page. If, after having read that information, you need further clarification about why this process is taking place, please leave a note on my talk or I'm sure the nominator would run through it for you. Bleakcomb (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Juke Kartel as I cannot find any coverage independent of his work with the band. -- Whpq (talk) 13:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 14:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 14:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. The Nom's reasons are well articulated. The Juke Kartel page contradicts itself as to whether the subject is still actually a member and reliable sources are few. If it can be established that the subject is still a member of the band then I'd change to a redirect to the band article. Bleakcomb (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - It doesn't really matter if he is a current or former member. A redirect there would still be appropriate to s section listing former members.  We don't ignore history. -- 01:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect. Doesn't meet WP:MUSICIAN or WP:GNG, but as is said above, it doesn't really matter whether he is a current or former member of the band. As long as it's verifiable, and it is in this case, then he deserves a redirect. Jenks24 (talk) 14:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.