Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Friel (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Todd Friel
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I realize what nominating this article for deletion means – I've spent days of my life trying to save it. However, the article contains seven sources, and all but three are self-published. Of these three good sources, one is a trivial mention, and the other two don't, in my opinion, establish notability for inclusion. Weak delete.  TheAE  talk / sign  02:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: agree that sourcing is too marginal to establish notability (in spite of sterling efforts on AE's part to maximise what could be found). HrafnTalkStalk(P) 06:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't delete it. This guy's a fairly well known Christian talk radio host. I know of him because he recently spoke to Christopher Hitchens on his Wretched radio show (that's the name of the show) where he got a good pasting from Hitchens, in my view. If nothing else, fans of Hitchens who play the segment on You Tube are going to come to Wikipedia to get some background on the guy. The article seems accurate. Can I respectfully suggest lightening up on Wikipedia's usual requirements? If 3 of the sources are self published that leaves four that aren't. I'd post a link to YouTube's recording of the chat with Hitchens but I know YT is frowned upon as a source. His show has a website that you could point to. Leave it up, and put the usual disclaimers. Mrcomeara (talk)
 * Comment: I saw this shellacing he took as well. Unfortunately, unless it was reported in a reliable source, it does not add to his notability. If notability cannot be established, then Hitchens fans will simply have to find their way to his website to find out about him. All but two references are to his website, his agent or groups that had hired him to speak at them. The remaining two are mere announcements (see WP:NOT) lacking any significant coverage of Friel himself. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 03:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete if sources cannot be accreted, the article must be deleted. Drawn Some (talk) 04:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:PERNOM Sceptre (talk) 08:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources are borderline acceptable imo, I don't think deletion is necessary. C.U.T.K.D  T 10:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.