Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Graves (entrepreneur)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. A number of sources are clearly available, providing some level of reliable coverage, but reasonable uninvolved editors seem to strongly differ on exactly whether there is enough. WP:BIO does not ask for a specific number of sources, but asks for "multiple", and specifically "if the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". There is evidently good-faith disagreement over whether this threshold is usefully met here. ~ mazca  talk 09:56, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Todd Graves (entrepreneur)

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non-notable business person. Looks like he appeared on one episode of a TV series, founded a restaurant chain based in Baton Rouge, and has received the local coverage expected from that kind of local notability valereee (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. valereee (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. valereee (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. valereee (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete a non-notable businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:05, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep this guy is very notable in the state of Louisiana and passes WP:BASIC with multiple substantial coverages. He seems to be notable on multiple subjects ranging from TV, books, restaraunt awards. The guy has also been featured in two books. According to his IMDB profile he's been in 3 TV shows. He's also apparently the top CEO in America. This guy is all over the place, he apparently even gave Chuck Norris $100,000 for his charity. The Louisiana governor regularly mentions him on the louisiana.gov website. He partnered with Southern University to donate over 1 million dollars in academic scholarships. His coverage is not limited to Louisiana. He has substantial media coverage in Texas, Arkansas and for some reason... Hawaii. His business is operating in several countries including United States, Bahrain, Kuwait, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates with over 400 restaraunts. DavidDelaune (talk) 04:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment One more thing... if I were born in the year 2050 and read an encyclopedia about this era... I might want to know about someone that owned 453 restaraunts. DavidDelaune (talk) 04:54, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , none of those sources look like proving notability. The food channel one is an interview, the Orlov book is self-published, the textbook is possibly significant coverage in a reliable source, so that's a SINGLE support for notability; we need at minimum three. IMDb is crowdsourced. What is QSR magazine, and what is a Glassdoor Employee's Choice award? Whatever they are, that is from a Raising Cane's press release; it states at the bottom that the info hasn't been verified. IMDb again, not usable. louisiana.gov is a bare mention in a story about Lemonade Day. Southern Uni's is a bare mention. Hawaii News Now (not sure what that is?) is again a bare mention, and btw it's just an apparent reprint of a Raising Cane's press release. None of these go to proving notability. --valereee (talk) 13:10, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'd not heard of him until this AfD, but not hearing of some person is a bad reason for deletion. Bearian (talk) 18:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable businessman. Zinzhanglee (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep both businessman and business appear to be notable. Page needs additional sourcing but theres enough to deter deletion. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , which three sources do you think prove notability? I'm just not seeing it. --valereee (talk) 19:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, per and . = paul2520 (talk) 18:49, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , which of DD's sources look like proving notability to you? HEJ didn't provide any. --valereee (talk) 19:18, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * the The Food Channel source, the Houston Chronicle site, the text book, the Hawaii News Now source, and http://gov.louisiana.gov, to name a few. I agree with below; where does it say three sources are needed? = paul2520 (talk) 00:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect to Raising Cane's Chicken Fingers. The subject has done lots of stuff but our notability guidelines are very clear and the sources do not provide the necessary significant, in-depth coverage in independent RS to meet WP:BIO. However, redirects are cheap and one would be helpful. 2A02:C7F:4481:8300:90DC:E235:5074:54B0 (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. No rule requires three sources to prove notability. Can just as easily be from the aggregate of many more minor sources. Hyperbolick (talk) 20:20, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * comment a possible source: (yes I know the article is mostly about the business, but there's useful biographical information also)  78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


 * 78.26, I'd actually call that a second sigcov in rs, along with the textbook. --valereee (talk) 10:29, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


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