Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Scalia


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  20:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Todd Scalia

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Notability not asserted Tim (talk) 01:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, maybe speedy. Asserts notability - but this is more of a resume than an article about somebody. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 01:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, a model with a nice gig, but not clearly notable via reliable sources. --Dhartung | Talk 04:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, the information here is factual and the Todd Scalia page is a work in progress. I actually set up the page after meeting Todd at the Los Angeles Film Festival last weekend.  He was there for the premiere of an indie film he starred in, Loss Prevention, produced by Josh Krohn.  I gleaned the information on this page from him about his background and proceeded to set up a page.  I apologize that I am a new Wiki user, and have been researching how to properly set up a Wiki page.  I will be editing and citing sources over the next couple days, and I would appreciate if judgements could be held until I can get the page worked out.  Thank you.  --Obsurfcat  —Preceding comment was added at 04:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Comment Hi Obsurfcat and welcome to Wikipedia. The issue here isn't whether your info is factual or "good enough" - the page is definitely well-written and encyclopedic in tone, which is great! Keep up the good work. The only issue and the reason I prodded the article is because regardless of article quality I don't think the subject individual meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. But that's why we have this debate medium setup :) Tim (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Response Thanks for the welcome Tim. I'd like to highlight the reasons Scalia is notable for Wikipedia. First, he was an accomplished musician and lead vocalist for an incredibly popular college band in Boston (see links to articles re. Redshift 6 on the page).  Second, Scalia launched a career as an international supermodel by becoming the front man for the 2004 Spring A&F campaign, and became recognizable by millions after being seen on billboards and shopping bags worldwide.  I recognized him immediately when I met him at the LA Film Festival.  He went on to shoot major print ads for the designers mentioned on the page, and did numerous runway shows in Europe.  See link  for examples of his modeling work.  Third, Scalia is currently an amazing actor who is being seen in some indie films now and is creating quite a bit of interest as a rising star in Hollywood.  After the first film I saw him in, my first thought was, "the next Brad Pitt."  He was amazing.  I hope this helps highlight notability.  I will continue working to improve the page to clarify these items. --Obsurfcat  —Preceding comment was added at 17:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, I apologize in advance if this doesn't come through properly. I tried to read the instructions carefully and don't mean to disrupt your forum in any way.  I also feel bad because I think the photo of Todd on the Time's Square billboard in New York that I tried to upload was labeled incorrectly on my part and caused a problem.  Wikipedia is so well done and I'm sorry for causing any problems here.  That being said, I would agree with the gentleman above who would like to keep the article.  I have gotten to know Mr. Scalia well over the last several years as we've worked on some great motion pictres.  I was pleased to see his entry here and feel bad that my actions might have cause the article to be considered for deletion.  If you don't know him now, you will. His IMDB (internet movie database) profile is currently being process (this can take a month or more sometimes) and his credits will be impressive. Since I'm very active in production in Hollywood I know of one film specifically that is being directed by an individual as well known as Martin Scorcese, and Todd will be playing the lead role.  It would be a shame to the Wikipedia community if his article were not included. I genuinely mean that.  As a forum for accurate, community generated encyclopedic material, I think this article will be a quality piece that will be enjoyed by your readers.  I appreciate the opportunity for me to express my support in favor of "no deletion" and wanted to commend the other people that voiced their opinion on their willingness to engage in civil debate.  Mr. Scalia is a very impressive young man and he is very notable on a number of fronts. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. Kind regards, Jan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.23.42 (talk) 00:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep Comment, I forgot to mention that after reviewing many other Wikipedia articles, the references and links supplied by whoever put together that Scalia page, are more substantive than many others I saw. Also I'm so glad it's mentioned that he's related to Robert Taylor! When I met Todd's grandfather, 85 yr old Frank Rossi, he showed me copies of some incredible photos of he and Taylor at the family ranch in Bishop, CA as well as priceless Navy photos. Congrats to the members of Wikipedia for having such incredible information! I was very impressed! I will stop talking now for now and hope to check in a few days from now to see what's been decided.  I sincerely hope it remains. Regards, Jan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.23.42 (talk) 00:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Note, this comment was from another IP vote on the same address. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 22:23, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, Oops! Sorry Dennis! You're right I meant to say comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.23.42 (talk) 23:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No biggie, easy mistake. =) -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 01:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Comment. Todd Scalia is VERY notable. spearheading the largest and most controversial fashion campaign in the world should suffice even if he wasn't a rising star in major film circuits. that's my two cents anyway. i thought he should have been a wikipedia article years ago. thanks for listening anyway! cya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.23.42 (talk) 23:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Has not received significant coverage in secondary sources, thus not meeting the wp:bio notability standard.-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 23:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I have made some changes to the Todd Scalia site and have linked to references clearly showing Scalia to be a notable figure, not in the least because of his involvement in the controversial Abercrombie magazine.  I would submit to Brewcrewer that Scalia does indeed meet the wp:bio notability standard.  I have direct links on the page to websites where Scalia is mentioned in news articles regarding his band, as well as modeling agency websites depicting images clearly showing his print work for major clothing designers. I would argue that the secondary source coverage is there on the page, and that clearly Scalia has achieved notability with his modeling first and foremost, especially with Abercrombie & Fitch and the controversy surrounding the photo shoot that he starred in.  Again, I am new to Wikipedia, and I would appreciate advice on how to properly cite references and how to link to the references throughout the article.  Scalia is a notable figure, but I think perhaps my lack of expertise as a Wiki user is making it difficult to connect the dots.  Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obsurfcat (talk • contribs) 07:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not enough secondary mainstream coverage of this invidual exists for now.  JeanLatore (talk) 01:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


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