Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toejam Jawallaby

It's been suggested on the talk page that this is a joke entry. Reading around, that seems likely. -- sannse (talk) 21:53, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * In that case, also Zil Banthrop, Pesmard Vandigor, and Natoli Brothers. Adam Bishop 22:40, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete as joke/parody. Do not redirect it to anything.  Yes, really delete it.  That's not a merge.  That's not a merge and redirect.  That's not send to clean up.  Just delete the pranks. Geogre 22:57, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Recommend Pages needing attention and more confirmation. If this a long-lasting prank, the article could be renovated from that aspect, describing the hoax and it's origins. I'm no expert on music, and I can't tell if this is notable, so let other editors have a pass at it. -- Netoholic @ 23:20, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * The really amazing thing about this is that somebody went to that much effort. "Retroactively influenced Louis Armstrong"...sheeeeeeeesh. Delete. No redirect (what would one redirect it to?) Bearcat 00:12, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, while it's still an obvious hoax, it appears to be a hoax with enough of a life of its own that I could also support keeping the article if it's rewritten as an article about the hoax. (ie. "Toejam Jawallaby is a fictional guitarist, created by a humorist yadda yadda...") Bearcat 16:52, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I can also support this idea. Hoaxes can be worthy of inclusion, as long as they are 1) notable and 2) clearly labeled as hoaxes. Antandrus 16:55, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete all (Toejam Jawallaby, Zil Banthrop, Pesmard Vandigor, and Natoli Brothers): pranks. Look for other stuff by same author(s), also check the what-links-to-this. Wile E. Heresiarch 03:25, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hoax.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 04:17, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Changing my vote: Keep article about the hoax. Apparently a bit of an in-joke among jazz fans, but one with a life of its own.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 19:29, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete apparent hoax. Lacrimosus 08:42, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC).
 * If this is a hoax, it's the longest running realest hoax I've ever seen. There is actual recorded material by this guy. There are discussions dating back twenty years in reputable (not bogus) newsgroups like rec.music.bluenote and rec.music.classical. His name appears in the Definitive Jazz Lover's Jokebook under "You might be a jazz fan if..." He is mentioned in a review of a collectable anthology album. Perhaps we need to distinguish between a real hoax and a fake hoax. I think this is the real thing.
 * I think the entry in the joke book is actually confirmation that this is a hoax (geddit?) -- sannse (talk) 17:13, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Do yer research, anonydude. The guy who created Toejam Jawallaby admits on his webpage that he recorded the Vegetableland song himself. Bearcat 17:17, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Hilarious, but nonsense. Delete. Hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax.  Did I mention hoax?  Look at Sannse's link.  Antandrus 16:18, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I've taken the liberty of rewriting the intro to make it clear that he's fictional, though I didn't attempt to radically rewrite the whole page. If the consensus becomes that the article might be worth keeping because of the semi-notability of the hoax qua hoax, it's a start. I've also categorized him under "Internet memes" for the time being. Bearcat 17:17, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't think an article on Toejam Jawallaby as a notable hoax is warranted. Googling for "Toejam Jawallaby" yields 122 hits, of which 7 are unique and the other 115 were captured entirely from a "new pages" infobox on pages at explanation-guide.info, a Wikipedia mirror. Let's not give this hoax more attention than it deserves. Wile E. Heresiarch 00:51, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, since it's been changed to a well-written article about the hoax. RSpeer 19:30, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)