Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tofael: The Tea Stall Boy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep--Ymblanter (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Tofael: The Tea Stall Boy

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Appears to fail WP:FILM. Perhaps I'm wrong though, and maybe there are some Bangla sources out there. SarahStierch (talk) 00:49, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  01:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  01:14, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Userfy. Barring the discovery of more Bangla sources, I'm going to say that this just doesn't pass notability guidelines at this point in time. However since the original editor (User:Pratyya Ghosh) is still active, I recommend returning it to his userspace for the time being. It's won one minor award and while it isn't enough to merit a keep on that alone, it gives me the hope that it might gain more coverage in the future. Userfying it for a while would be a good option. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) '  04:38, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 01:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for relisting this. Anyway you should notify me about this. Just today I found out that this article is for deletion. Now This film is released in 2013 which is one year. And in this one year this film has received a prize and was nominated for a prize. Also it is a short film. So you should not judge this film as normal films. Anyway I think this should be kept. Now I'll ask the community to comment here. -- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 06:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * PS:- We have Bengali sources about this film.-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 06:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: The problem is, that we have to judge everything by WP:NFILM. While nobody is expecting it to receive the amount of coverage that a big Hollywood film ala Saving Private Ryan would get, we do need to show that it has received coverage in reliable sources. The length of the film does not mean that it does not have to follow the same criteria as a full length independent film would. It might be harder for short films to receive coverage, but it's not up to us to make up the difference. The only way to really get around stuff like that is for the director to send a screener copy off for reviews. If we had 2-3 reviews then it'd be a much different story right now. There's just not enough coverage right now. Although if there are Bengali sources that aren't primary (WP:PRIMARY) or trivial (WP:TRIVIAL) and are in reliable sources, we can certainly use those. You just have to add them to the page. We need to actually see them in some form in order to count them towards notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:47, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added some sources so that there's no notability problem. The sources are from bengali newspaper or online bengali newspaper. They are very much reliable. I believe it is proved that this film is notable. Now what do you think?-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 13:59, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks to be good enough for me. I used Google Translate to get the jist of the articles' contents and it looks good so far. It's mostly from a specific period in time and the articles are short, but I know that this is par for the course with a lot of India's newspapers. A 1-3 paragraph article is the equivalent of a 1-2 page article in other countries. (Saying this more for the benefit of others coming in that would not be as familiar with how Indian newspapers work as far as length of articles go.) I'm changing my vote to a keep. The coverage is still light, but we don't expect an indie film to get as many hits as a mainstream movie would get- there's enough here to establish notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   15:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm a native speaker of Bengali. I checked Bengali sources & seems okay to me. --War Minister (talk) 08:10, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking those! I always feel better when a native speaker checks over a foreign language source- Google Translate isn't an infallible source by any means. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:56, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
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