Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toil (concept)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus not to have an article. Whether to redirect and where to is a separate matter for which we have no clear consensus here.  Sandstein  19:11, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Toil (concept)

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Per WP:NOTDICT. In its current status it reminds me a dictionary entry:

"toil. (from Greek ponos) is a concept of... 1. antiquity. Concept 2. Judaism and Christianity. Concept 3. economics. Concept"

If required it can be merged into wikt:toil or splitted into Toil (manual work), Toil (religion) and Toil (economics), but its current status must go. ©  Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 02:37, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose, "toil" clearly exists as concept in philosophy and religion - including some content related to economics doesn't justify splitting the article; the economics is covered also in Paradox of toil. And why is AFD being used for an article split? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:40, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not usign AFD for an article split, I solely suggested it. If nothing is relevant nowhere, it'll go with the page if deleted. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 02:53, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete this is a classic COATRACK --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  13:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge any salvageable material to other articles. This is a WP:DICDEF and a WP:COATRACK, covering multiple concepts under one term.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:29, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve. That an article is difficult to write due to the level of abstraction inherent in the concept is more reason to have it, not less. bd2412  T 00:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * "That an article is difficult to write" denotes by itself the article may not be within Wikipedia policies. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 02:53, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Convert to redirect since it is about Manual labour -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:18, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Manual labour as the topics are broadly equivalent. This article was only created because In ictu oculi wanted to rename an article about an album named Toil. sst✈  12:16, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No, the article was created because someone above inserted an article for a non-charting album called Toil (by a band whose better-known albums get 3 hits a day, this one suspiciously gets more hits, why?) in the redspace for toil thereby blocking up search results for 2,479 uses of "toil" on en.wp, (or was toil originally a redirect to manual labour?), and the argument was made by several mainly pop editors that because manual labour wasn't the same as Toil therefore those searching "toil" must be looking for the non-charting album; see the current RM at Talk:Toil (disambiguation). In ictu oculi (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary.  Calidum   ¤   23:34, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.