Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Carr (artist)


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The result was   keep. postdlf (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Tom Carr (artist)

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Insufficient notability for WP:Artist; the works listed as Further reading, while indisputably about him, are exhibition catalogues. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm struggling to see why 5 years of edits have been reverted by the nominator - the alleged source of the copyright violation, his website biography, has very little biographical background. On the otherhand I can see there has been some heavy COI editing. Would it not be better to leave the article as it stood, to give clues to his career and background? I had already removed and reworded large parts in June this year! Sionk (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep okay, I'll stick my neck out and say 'keep', on the basis he's exhibited internationally for several decades and been noticed by major publications (suggesting there will be offline sources too). For example his first solo US exhibition in 1989 was reviewed by the LA Times. More recently (but still in the dark ages by internet terms) he's been reviewed by the major Spanish papers, El Mundo and El Pais (with some biographical info). More recently by Catalunya Radio. His Red carpet installation in Singapore was picked up by Art Radar Asia and Time Out Singapore. He's even mentioned in Fodor's Spain as a local star in Catalunya. Sionk (talk) 13:22, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment. I've no strong feeling one way or the other on his notability. The links you cite look useful. I did a quick Google search, a quick Google Books search and a quick Jstor search; I got several hits, but the majority of them, such as this one, were for another artist called Tom Carr. The criteria of WP:Artist are:


 * The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
 * The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
 * The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
 * The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.


 * Does he fulfill any of those? As for my edits to the article, there was a massive addition of apparently copyvio material in 2008, as as annotated on the article talkpage, and it had wholly unreferenced since that date. The only inline reference in the whole screed was the spam reference added by COI editor about Art Plural Gallery. I noticed and applaud your edits. The article is still without proper references, the only mention of him that I found being on his own website; that is what led me to propose this discussion. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Reviews in the LA Times, El Pais and El Mundo could be classed as "significant critical attention", since major newspapers like that don't write on every minor art show. Regarding the exhibition catalogs, it's usual practice in art history to consider catalog essays by art historians as reliable sources since that's a major form of writing about art; some of the cited references are by curators or art bureaucrats so they don't count, but Christine Buci-Glucksmann is a distinguished academic and Vicenç Altaió is an art critic; Françoise Barbe-Gall is a respected author but not an academic or critic. Article is currently free of promotional claims. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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