Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Coughlan (football)


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The result was keep. Courcelles (talk) 00:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Tom Coughlan (football)

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This page discusses a former chairman, for a period of about 16 months (between 2008-2010), of an Irish football club. It gives a very brief, one line background, stating that he unsuccessfully ran for the Dáil/Irish parliament. The vast majority of the page discusses his relatively short tenure as owner of Cork City FC. Though it made national news, Coughlan has rarely been mentioned in the media since (or before). I believe that it lacks the required Notability to warrant a page on Wikipedia.

The article was created at a time when his running of the club was hugely controversial, in 2009. This article has been criticised by editors of being edited/vandalised by both Coughlan's supporters and critics. Most of the edits took place during the height of the controversy, from the middle of 2009 until the beginning for 2010. For that reason, I believe that the page lacks a Neutral_point_of_view.

Since Cork City was taken over from Coughlan by a new supporters' group, the editing has come to an almost complete stop. There have been two edits in 2015 and there were none at all in 2014. No real extra information has been added, about his life prior or subsequent to Cork City. There has also been very little news on Coughlan since his departure from the club, bar consequences of his management (eg, his restriction as a company director - mentioned briefly here: http://www.irishtimes.com/business/companies/struggle-continues-for-irish-soccer-clubs-both-on-and-off-the-pitch-1.2246118). Therefore, I think it suffers from "recentism", for disproportionately focussing on this period as it was a hot topic in Irish football news.

For these above reasons, I believe that the page should be deleted. Paz-CCFC (talk) 20:15, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep. No valid reason has been given for deletion. Once notable, always notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone  18:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Was Coughlan a notable figure to begin with? Are Irish football chairpersons or minor, unsuccessful election candidates generally notable to warrant a Wikipedia page? I do not think so. Some such as Oliver Byrne might, as he had been involved in football in an official capacity for a number of decades, including his time as chairman of Shelbourne FC. Coughlan has only been involved in football for a fraction of that time. His period in charge of the club certainly is notable, which is reflected by its inclusion in the Cork City FC page, but I do not believe that Coughlan himself is. Paz-CCFC (talk) 20:23, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - article has several references that meet WP:GNG standards. I'm not sure what the basis of the deletion nomination is. Nfitz (talk) 22:12, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not notable as a businessman or as a football administrator, at most redirect to Cork City F.C.. GiantSnowman 09:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article cites multiple national level sources discussing his involvement in football in particular. Appears to meet GNG from these. Should be noted that the nomination does not consider WP:NTEMP. Fenix down (talk) 11:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Technically a speedy keep because the nominator hasn't stated a valid reason for deletion. I understand your unhappiness with the article but the subject got lots of coverage in Ireland's national newspapers (and therefore meets WP:SECONDARY). If you don't think the article meets WP:NPOV, then please be WP:BOLD and change it, discussing on the talk pages any controversial points.  Fiachra10003 (talk) 17:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable enough — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.65.82 (talk) 22:27, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:SECONDARY and meets WP:GNG per Nfitz and Fenix. MrWooHoo (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


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