Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Grant (private investigator)


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The result was   delete. I'm calling this a unanimous consensus to delete. Yes, I know two people said keep, but both of them went on to say it needed citations, which (especially) in a WP:BLP situation, means delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Tom Grant (private investigator)

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Unsourced BLP and no indication of notability. – S. Rich (talk) 04:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Keep, tentatively. I'm assuming all the claims in the article are true, and simply in need of citation. If the claims are true, and he's been on multiple television shows related to a high-profile celebrity death, and gone on to represent other high-profile celebrities and political figures, he's arguably quite notable.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 06:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Grant is very much a one event personality. That event being the Death of Kurt Cobain. As an alternative to deletion, a blank and redirect would work well. – S. Rich (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * added comment Grant's books on the Death topic are now listed in the article as further reading items, with ISBNs – S. Rich (talk) 06:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 11:06, 10 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete All the sources in the article are self-referential. A Google search confirms that he is, indeed, known for promoting the murder theory; nothing else in the article could be confirmed. CBS News interviewed him once and mentioned him another time. Articles about Cobain usually give him a sentence-long mention, as in, "A certain sector of fans and observers -- most notably Tom Grant, the private investigator and former cop hired by Cobain's wife, singer and actress Courtney Love, to find Cobain when he went missing during the days before his death -- have insisted that Cobain's death was not suicide, but rather a murder conspiracy." (CBS). And that is all I could find in Reliable Sources. Unreliable, conspiracy-driven sources - well, that's another matter, but not one that concerns us. --MelanieN (talk) 03:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  01:17, 18 January 2015 (UTC) Keep - this article needs better citations. not deletion. per WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable fringe theorist. In lacking any reliable sources, this is s a WP:BLP disaster. Bearian (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: By all means mention him in some nirvana fringe theory area, but we have no good sources showing individual notability warranting a BLP. It simply can't be kept without independent reliable sourcing.--Milowent • hasspoken  03:42, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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