Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Kotchman


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The result was   keep. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 01:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Tom Kotchman

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Non-notable individual. Per WP:BASE/N: "Minor league players, managers, coaches, executives, and umpires are not assumed to be inherently notable." His inclusion in the Scouts Hall of Fame is trivial at best, as there are Hall of Fames for seemingly everything, and being inducted into one does not automatically create notability. The Hall of Fame is literally just a wall. Alex (talk) 04:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Alex (talk) 04:14, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Unlike a run of the mill scout that won a non-notable regional award one year, the subject here is a member of the Professional Baseball Scouts Hall of Fame, the highest honor and achievement for a baseball scout. Instead of news articles simply saying, "Person A won the Midwest Best Scout Award" as a passing mention, there are numerous stand-alone articles covering this notable establishment, including minorleaguebaseball.com, Major League Baseball's official minor league website. Please tell me you understand there's a difference between winning a regional award that only has passing mentions and a national hall of fame that receives coverage from the MLB?  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 04:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't appreciate your snark. It makes me want to cry. Alex (talk) 04:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * First writeups I've found so far from a simple google search. More to come tomorrow when I find them.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 04:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep A 35-year baseball lifer who managed extensively in the minors, has a son in MLB, and was inducted into the Scouts HOF likely passes WP:GNG; it's just a matter of spending time with Google News Archives. Beyond that, perhaps Alex could explain how the Scouts HOF is non-notable but the "Midwest Scout of the Year," a regional award, is notable, as Alex is claiming in the Richard Klaus AfD which is also pending now. — NY-13021 (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:18, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I also want an explanation on how an article created by Alex is notable because a scout won a regional award that has received zero coverage, but this article created by someone else is deemed not notable by Alex because he thinks being in the scouts hall of fame is not notable even though it's received quite a bit of coverage from many reliable sources, including MLB. Midwest Scout of the Year > Professional Baseball Scouts Hall of Fame. Please explain your logic in coming to this conclusion.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 19:06, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per Hall of Fame induction. Spanneraol (talk) 15:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pile-on keep and admonishment to Alex as regards vindictive nominations. &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  18:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, admonishment. That's almost as terrifying as a UN sanction. Alex (talk) 18:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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