Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Milsom


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The result was   redirect to Charlie McDonnell. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Tom Milsom

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An article about a young youtuber and musician. The page was nominated for speedy deletion, which was contested by an unusual number of IPs/editors. I declined the CSD nomination, however, I don't think the sources currently listed in the article are sufficient to meet our notability requirements. The sources are either self-published or not independent, and I can't find any significant coverage published by reliable sources. I have copied a section from the article's talk page, as I think it could serve as a good introduction to the discussion:

Things to Add?
His work producing albums for Eddplant and Alex Day should be elaborated on, as should (I think) his role on Taking Leave...Might it be better to organize the music career section by year rather than by album? Reno42 (talk) 14:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article definitely needs better sources published by reliable and independent media. While checking this article and the talk page, I have a strange feeling that it is edited by a group of fans connected by some social site/chat. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're not far off - he's been talking about the article on his Tumblr blog, which inspired fans to edit it. Lexicografía (talk) 15:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. I declined the speedy deletion nomination yesterday, but I'm not sure, the article as it is now has serious problems with sourcing. Yesterday I checked G-News and I think that I found something there, but now I can't find a single piece of evidence suggesting that Milsom is notable in Wikipedia terms. It's strange. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:38, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Btw, is the blog private or open? Could you possibly send a link? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:44, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's a link to the blog; however you might have to dig a bit to find posts about this article. Lexicografía (talk) 15:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've got it: "A Wikipedia page for Tom". I'll wait for few days to see if someone comes with better sources. I'll nominate the page at AfD if not. We can expect hordes of fans. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:21, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am (obviously, I think) a fan of Tom's trying to salvage this page, but I have to agree, there are few if no independent sources about him and while you could probably fill a Wikipedia page with information about him he isn't quite yet 'Wiki-notable'...there is a Sun article somewhere about Sons of Admirals but it's not very exhaustive re: Tom. Reno42 (talk) 02:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * A redirect to Sons of Admirals is of course possible, however, the page itself is a redirect to Charlie_McDonnell. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:38, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:03, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect to Charlie McDonnell. Fails WP:MUSICBIO.  &mdash;SW&mdash; verbalize 18:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Per the nominator's rationale. Non-notable musician; a Google News search reveals sources that mainly seem to refer to a Sarasota Herald-Tribune journalist of the same name. A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 20:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.