Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Murray (actor)


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The result was keep. Clear consensus to keep per WP:BEFORE (non-admin closure) — Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 18:45, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Tom Murray (actor)

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Fails notability guidelines per WP:GNG. It was deprodded citing the sources existed pre internet which is a violation of WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES for assuming. Now, the roles mentioned...I do not see a single prominent one except for The Pilgrim one (his character died early in The Gold Rush per plot as said on the wiki) so fails WP:NACTOR for not having multiple significant roles. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC) He has fourth billing in The Goldrush which is one of Chaplin's most critically acclaimed films and also fourth billing in Tramp, Tramp, Tramp as well as a lesser role in The Pilgrim another very notable Chaplin film. Atlantic306 (talk) 21:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep has prominent roles in notable Charlie Chaplin films, fourth or fifth is prominent in the cast list. It is obvious that this a pre-internet actor and this nomination seems to be a violation of WP:BEFORE commenting on the prod but not any search for sources which your prolific prodding today of national tv series also shows no WP:BEFORE Atlantic306 (talk) 21:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note searching without quotes for Tom Murray (actor) gives many more results some valid but they need to be picked out from a large number of false positives Atlantic306 (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:00, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, passes nactor, roles in enough notable silent films, including charlie chaplin films. Szzuk (talk) 17:55, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 17:54, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve. I found a mention of him in an obituary of his wife Louise Carver saying he was also a hill billy singer . He was part of 2 wellknown hillbilly groups at the time the Beverly Hill Billies and the Hollywood hillbillies that was also known as Uncle Tom Murray's Hollywood Hillbillies with who Roy Rogers played and was it seems exploited by Murray as he never got a salary.   . Dom from Paris (talk) 16:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a mention of him on Shug Fisher's page. Dom from Paris (talk) 17:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


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