Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Stern (director)


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The result was   keep. postdlf (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Tom Stern (director)

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Article has been around for 8 years without a single reference. I have looked but I can't find anything. Theroadislong (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 *  Comment Keep: When I first saw that the article had no sources, I thought it might be a candidate for WP:BLPPROD. However, the article was created prior to March 19, 2010, so I added a BLP unsourced instead and proceeded to see what I could find. So far, I have found these LA Times articles: TV Review: Hey, What's Wrong With a Little Idiotic Stealing Among Friends?, Chimp Man Canned and Feeling a Bit Cheetahed: Security breach?...Steaking a claim...Stern reply...Thumper cars., and Movie Review: 'Freaked': Potty-Level Humor Mixed With Terrific Effects. The LA Times should be reliable enough for citing some stuff about Stern's career, but I am not sure if the mentions are significant enough to establish Stern's overall notability per WP:DIRECTOR. I also found these sites, but they appear to be primary/self-published sources so they might not have much value: Tom Stern Writer/Director and About Tom Stern. There is this one for the movie Freaked: Freaked (1993), but once again it only mentions Stern thrice, although one menion clearly refers to him as one of the directors of the film. There is also this 2005 DVD review and this 1993 article called "Hip Shooters" (pages 30 to 41) from Film Threat with Stern pictured on the cover with Alex Winter. Is having directed Freaked enough to satisfy per #3 of "WP:DIRECTOR"? If it is, then I think the article should remain, be marked with a BLP sources template and inline citations added wherever possible.- Marchjuly (talk) 01:53, 27 November 2014 (UTC) -- Addendum: I've changed my original post from "Comment" to "Keep". I was able to find more sources, in addition to those mentioned above, so the article now has gone from zero to eleven sources and from zero to fifteen inline citations. I also believe that Stern's involvement with Freaked combined with his other TV and film work satisfies "WP:DIRECTOR". Although there is still lots of ways the article can be further improved and there's still the potential problem of COI editing, I feel its current version is much improved over the version that was nominated for deletion and least with regards to reliable sources, so per "Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted" of WP:BEFORE, I don't feel the article should be deleted. - Marchjuly (talk) 02:18, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There are more reviews of Freaked linked to from it's article too, from Entertainment Weekly, Variety, and Time Out. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 04:36, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ⨹   05:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Screenwriter for multipole notable films is sufficient for ntoability.  DGG ( talk ) 23:29, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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