Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tomasz Franciszek Zamoyski


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The result was keep. Meets GNG and has improved significantly since listing. (non-admin closure) — Twassman &#91;Talk·Contribs&#93; 19:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Tomasz Franciszek Zamoyski

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No evidence of notability. DrKay (talk) 15:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC) Article has been expanded and sourced since the nomination opened. DrKay (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The article has been without references since 2008, but a search reveals that there is coverage in multiple books. All those sources are in Polish so I can't improve the article myself. In the Polish project there is a bit more information and one reference along with a picture of a statue in what seems to be his grave. I translated the google snippets and they seem to be more than trivial mentions. Mostly about his involvement with a library. Since there are multiple sources with non trivial coverage, WP:GNG would be met in this case, and even though it has not been improved in years, articles don't have deadlines. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please quote the pieces you think "non trivial coverage" and not related to insignificant facts of being ordynat and a library patron in his fief/lien. Lembit Staan (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:SIGCOV cites "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" as an example of a trivial mention. Building a library cited in many books is not a trivial mention and neither is being an Ordynat as you can check here Zamoyski_family_entail. Besides those you can find significant coverage on Poczet ordynatów Zamoyskich which includes a biographical 8 page chapter (pages 101-108) devoted to the subject. I have also added information to the article based on a reference sourced to encyclopedia Britannica that mentions that the subject got recognition of his family title of count by Russia (also non trivial). There is also coverage by the Institute of Polish History, that deemed the fact notable enough to mention and a short biography by the museum of Polish History that includes brief details about his political and profesional career and his place and date of death. Regards. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)


 * delete. No significant coverage that could indicate notability. Lembit Staan (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello Please review the sources you asked for. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 19:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I have expanded the article and added three references. I will add some more information from the Polish History Museum reference but I am confident that polish speaking editors will be able to further improve it. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 20:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. Excellent job by Crystallizedcarbon to fix this article's issues, by removing cruft and adding sources and content. Also see this AfD. VocalIndia (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Regards. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 09:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This AfD is needed opinion from an experienced Polish native editor, So I mentioned him. VocalIndia (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Note: also known as just "Tomasz Zamoyski" . Found following sources (before looking at other posts here, some have already been presented): A pagraph-long biography in a footnote in a Polish academic article. I think there is a lenghtier biography here but snippet view prevents me from seeing how long - at least several sentences long. Another biography of unknown length is in this book: (he gets at least a page heading?) There is a lot of mentions in passing. I think the coverage out there is enough for NBIO, with a note that Polish sources are still not well digitized and the odds are 'there is more' that is simply not searchable online for. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  12:23, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


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