Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tomb Raider Level Editor (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. — TKD::Talk 07:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Tomb Raider Level Editor
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Nominated for deletion in accordance with multiples sections of the deletion policy, including unencyclopedic content, unnotable content, unverifiable content, nonreliable sources attached to the article, WP:VANITY in use, such as to advertise levels unknown outside of the fanbase, and I do suspect that there are some copyright issues attached to this article. I can't see anyway to clean up this article over a complete overhaul. In any case, the article is highly bloated and needs to be compressed. WaltCip 00:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Nom says it all here: content is unverifiable by any reliable sources; possible WP:VSCA at work here as well. Also seems to violate WP:IINFO, WP:HOWTO... even with a rewrite I still doubt it'd pass WP:N. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 00:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It's WP:IINFO. Operating 00:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. Also, note to the nom, please avoid using ' Vanity ' in AfD's. See WP:AFD B figura  (talk) 03:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 10:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You posted a cleanup tag just a week ago. The cleanup template said 'Please discuss this issue on the talk page', but you failed to post anything there. WP:CU has a short entry, but it also states you should cross post it on the article discussion page because the Cleanup page is not visited by anybody, and the template also refers to the talk page for discussion about the cleanup. You gave the article very short time for cleanup, and without anything on the talk page about the cleanup it was expected nothing would happen. And as long as it is nominated for deletion nobody will cleanup it, since your work will proberly be lost then. Also deletion is not really an option, you simply can't deny the fact that this level editor exists as it is an official release. So it should merged in that case with Tomb_Raider_series. However the article is way to big for being merged, I think that was the reason it was made a seperate article again. So to be merged it needs a cleanup as well, but you should at least give people the chance to give the article a cleanup rather then tagging it without an explanation and then nominating it for deletion shortly after. 82.171.147.57 10:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * First, please log in before participating in an AFD. Second, it would seem that a cleanup would involve changing the course of the entire article. After scrolling through the article indefinitely, I have noticed that the entire content of the article, save for a couple of paragraphs, is encyclopedic. All that can possibly be merged, if you will, is a passing mention of it in the Tomb Raider article. Beyond that, attempting to clean up the article would result it in a revert from several forward editors, thus an edit war. I'd rather be direct and to the point rather than try to bother with a cleanup notice that would no doubt go unnoticed.--WaltCip 12:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no doubt that my actions regarding cleanup were, at best, insufficient, since I was under the impression that my issues were already posted on the talk page. However, I had noticed a user had deleted an issue on the talk page that we were discussing regarding previous content of the article: "Highly Anticipated Levels". That user happened to be the one I was disputing the issue with at the time, and I am almost 100% certain that he or she will come galloping to this AFD within the next 24 hours. In the case where fanboyism rules an article, it is futile to attempt cleanup.--WaltCip 12:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Keb25 13:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete All that's needed is a brief mention on the approriate game pages. bob rulz 05:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.