Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommaso Squitti (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Insufficient verified evidence of notability. --PeaceNT (talk) 03:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Tommaso Squitti
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Article was previously deleted after Articles for deletion/Tommaso Squitti. Creator has added a new source. (The source does refer to the subject if the translator program translated "Tommaso" as "Thomas". The questions now are, is the title  "Baron of Palermiti and Guarna " sufficiently notable, and is the sourcing sufficient.  Speedily deleted before with a Google book source in Italian. Now sourced by a google book translation. I speedied, but reconsidered after looking more closely at the new source. It is difficult to validate sources electronically about people who lived in the 19th century. Cheers,    Dloh  cierekim  14:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There is another source that refers to Tommasso Squitti as the Nobility of Italy, a book.


 * ^ Nobility of Italy, The Mormon Library(The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)- UTAH


 * While I am a third generation Canadian I am surprised how the history of "The Nobility of Euorpe" and especially Italy has been somewhat erased from History.) I discovered 'these Squitti's over the Internet in Europe some 5 years ago and 'coincidence' suggests we may be related.


 * This gives me the opportunity to comment on 'The Nobility of Italy" If you remove Tommasso Squitti, he was the individual given the title of Baron suggesting that he will not show up on the site referring to the Nobility of Italy as well.


 * Under the Feudal system 'these" people controlled large tracts of land, and after the 'political revolutions' they lost their titles and possibly their lands to the majority ? Seems there is alot of history missing that relates to 'these people' throughout europe and russia, except countries like England who maintained their Monarchies....


 * Thanks

--Caesar J. B. Squitti :  Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 15:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to Baldassarre Squitti until more reference material is found to support a stand-alone article. Dhaluza (talk) 16:25, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Important As a third generation Canadian I was unaware of the Squitti's 'NOBILITY' background. My grandfather was known as Baron Cesare Squitti, however the term Baron was unknown to me.  It appears Italian history is ignoring the 'politically incorrect' truths prior to the formation of Italy as a country, when they had the "nobility" as did most all other European countries.  The network of 'nobility' appears lost in today's 'democratic' societies. Tomasso Squitti was in fact the individual who was granted the coat of arms and other, and would appear to be the most important of the Squitti's in southern Italy.

I have yet to establish the link between my grandfather Baron Cesare Squitti from Malito, Italy, and Tomasso Squitti's from Maida, Italy. There is no doubt a connection somewhere, in fact we are all related, somehow, somewhere.

Sad that the true history of many North American's and their connections to the "nobility" of the past is being lost....

--Caesar J. B. Squitti :  Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 15:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Anthøny  19:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete as non-notable. Caesar J. B. Squitti: You really shouldn't be writing about your own family on Wikipedia. It's too much of a Conflict of interest --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The issue is whether this person is notable or not. There are plenty of listings, where individuals WHO WORK FOR or who are related (perhaps Maternally) are doing listings, or for that matter, people with names that are not names...if I make myself clear.
 * Are we really related ? I would apprecaite the proof.

Thanks for raising the issue. It is an important one, a conflict of interest, and that can affect the 'slant' of an article. That is very, very important. I am certain that 'history' is full of such conflicts....

--Caesar J. B. Squitti :  Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 21:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

merge untl we have enough meaningful contents.-- Freewayguy What's up? 23:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I am not able to assess the reliability of the source but even if the person is verifiable there is no evidence of notability. Not every minor titled European person is notable. Fails WP:N. Smile a While (talk) 02:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


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