Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Daugherty


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Tommy Daugherty

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No indication of notability, no reliable sources. Has worked with notable artists, but notability is not inherited. Google News finds a passing mention as "Tupac's personal engineer", but nothing of substance. Huon (talk) 12:01, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  13:01, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Promotional account opening scores of these non-notable promotional pieces (he says he has "150" articles he plans to create). Enough is enough. sixty nine   • speak up •  13:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. As a different IP, I've started a thread at the COI noticeboard, and asked that the promotional account be blocked. Also note a variety of sock/meat puppets and WP:SPAs have sprung up. 2601:188:0:ABE6:B095:6CD9:12FD:9C11 (talk) 13:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Now I see that an SPI has been opened . 2601:188:0:ABE6:B095:6CD9:12FD:9C11 (talk) 14:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

{Thread Creator} These are not promotional accounts, how about you help add and contribute instead of deteriorate and belittle the life work of legendary producers and artists!?! As I mentioned I run Rap.com and that is credible enough. I have created both a non bias rapper account and a non bias producer account and my own personal account to establish the framework for which to conduct the rest of the interviews with the artists that are not currently on Wikipedia that meet the standards of notable musician. I am appalled at the apparent lack of support for the creation of more hip hop industry profiles. I ask that you edit the pages towards completion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RapAuthority (talk • contribs) 16:15, 5 February 2016 (UTC) Delete as advertising or move to Draft space with an AfC tag, and self-declared effort to use Wikipedia to promote his interviews with musicians. The editor creating these articles seems to have a good heart but doesn't understand Wikipedia and as result is abusing it. We need to delete these and have him put them through AFC both for COI reasons and so he can learn what a Wikipedia article is and is not... Jytdog (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC) (modifying - moving these ourselves to AfC would show him how he should be working. Jytdog (talk) 22:33, 5 February 2016 (UTC))
 * Delete for now at best as none of this suggests better independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  19:24, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment It's preferable to assume good faith,, but a lot of virtual ink has been spent attempting to explain the way we work, and all that's offered in response is an insistence on getting their way. Of course Rap.com is not a reliable source, and its operator is attempting to use Wikipedia for promotional ends. I requested a block last night, and though it's not yet happened, suspect the workings of the SPI process will yield some resolution soon enough. In other words, the desire to use this site for their own ends trumps any interest in understanding how we work. 2601:188:0:ABE6:B095:6CD9:12FD:9C11 (talk) 21:08, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Leaving aside whether he (you? I don't know if you are the rap person or someone else) has a COI or not.  Looking just at his behavior --  in his great haste he is ignoring what a bunch of people have told him and is pressing on ahead anyway.  At minimum he is  showing that he doesn't care about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for content nor for editor behavior - that is what we call disruptive behavior and is going to get him banned.  I don't know if it arises from COI or plain old WP:ADVOCACY but either way something outside of WP is more important to him than Wikipedia itself, and that is a big problem.  And yes this article like the others is the obvious product of that stance.  Jytdog (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, exactly. 2601:188:0:ABE6:B095:6CD9:12FD:9C11 (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

How can you say the person who made Tupac's beats, a song for Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson, is not notable? He is on the production credits of Tupac's album as one of the main engineers. "Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up" this is a quote to live by, do some research, I am an authority in the realm of Rap Music, and I will write all of the information on Rap.com and use that as a third party reference if need be, see I interview the artists and producers, and I write the facts and document it with factual samples, pictures, etc, and it's very important you give me the spots where I need to add references highlight that, don't argue if they have notability, anyone I put on Wikipedia has Notability because I run Rap.com and these people knock off many of the things listed on Wikipedia's notability requirements — Preceding unsigned comment added by RapAuthority (talk • contribs) 15:21, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * When you added the comment above you also removed other people's comments. They have been added back while keeping your comment, but if remove others' comments again, your edits will probably simply be reverted. --bonadea contributions talk 15:44, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Every single article on Wikipedia has to be about a notable subject, and none of us has carte blanche to create any article we like and automatically have it pronounced as notable. There are some sources - printed encyclopedias, for instance - that pretty much guarantee that the subject is notable, but it doesn't appear that rap.com is such a source. That's not a discussion for this page, though; take it to the reliable sources noticeboard if you like, but remember that this discussion is about this specific article, not about any other potential articles you might want to create. --bonadea contributions talk 15:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Does not meet music notability standard. Disclosure that I was the nominator on the Eric the Prince AfD. -- sandgemADDICT yeah? 10:50, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as still questionable for the applicable notability. SwisterTwister   talk  06:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment A post to the article's talk page requesting a move to Tommy D. Daugherty led me to discover that this has been deleted in an AfD already: Articles for deletion/Tommy D. Daugherty. That was a while ago and the articles probably look very different, so this AfD should probably run its course, but it is illuminating reading. --bonadea contributions talk 06:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, and delete. Persistent lack of notability per WP:NMUSIC. --bonadea contributions talk 06:56, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


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