Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Oliver (musician)


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The result was   delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Tommy Oliver (musician)

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I can't find any non-trivial sources at all. Searches for "Tommy Oliver" + "Bandleader" found only unreliable sources such as other wikis and game show fansites. Likewise by searching "Tommy Oliver" + "Name That Tune" (first hit was, of all things, TV Tropes) and various other key words. I also can't verify that he was ever nominated for a Grammy. The article has had an unreferenced tag since 2006, suggesting that Oliver is rather below most people's radar — this alone seems to suggest that despite his supposed prolificacy, he was never high on our notability scale. (It has also had a very low edit history — nothing at all between 8/08 and 12/09, and all edits since have either been minor or by bots.) tl;dr: He seems to fail the WP:GNG due to a complete lack of reliable sourcing. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete — per TPH. I also find a lack of reliable third-party sourcing on which to base WP:GNG. I also can't find anything close to WP:MUSICBIO. JFHJr (㊟) 08:25, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. If you search for "Tommy Oliver" + "producer" you may find more. e.g. . More on Highbeam. Clearly 'real-world notable'. --Michig (talk) 08:57, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * All of those give nothing but his name as a producer's credit or some other variation of "Tommy Oliver produced this song/album/etc.". They say literally nothing about him except that he produced a work, which is not enough to build a whole bio on. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep, credited as a producer on a number of albums at allmusic. However, I do understand Tens point about little written about the man. On this point, i tend towards inclusionism, but policy may in fact say otherwise. i have added some of the actual albums he has produced to the article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So you're saying he gets to completely bypass WP:RS? Does anyone here have common sense anymore, or have we devolved into an anarchic mess of WP:IAR? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of reliable sources - several are listed above. Perhaps you're confusing reliability with depth of coverage, for which there isn't a rule to ignore? --Michig (talk) 20:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 20:08, 8 July 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete I googled him and only found unreliable sources, so he fails WP: GNG. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, lacks verifiable sources therefore failing WP:GNG. - Mailer Diablo 01:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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