Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toni Pressley


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The result was   delete. The subject doesn't pass WP:FOOTY or WP:GNG, and WP:GHITS is not a valid argument for keeping an article. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 07:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Toni Pressley

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator on the grounds that there is no fully pro league for women. This does not alter the notability guidelines in anyway. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:31, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


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 * Weak Keep article says that she plays for Russian VDV, which, per the league's page, is the "highest professional women's football league in Russia". If there is no woman's pro league in the US following the disbanding of Women's Professional Soccer, does the Russian league not meet notability guidelines? StarM 01:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC) Delete based on clarification of guidelines below StarM 01:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The league itself meets notability guidelines does meet notability guidelines, but the women who play in it, as rule do not, unless they are notable in the general sense or have played for their country's national team. Notability requires verifiable evidience, and the claim that this league is not only pro, but fully pro as required by WP:NSPORT, is not supported by reliable sources. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Question and being on the under 23 team doesn't meet having played for the national team? I'm not saying it does - just asking. The multitude of levels confuse me. StarM 02:12, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:NSPORT explicitly excludes youth footballers who have not played for the senior national team. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:06, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks. Changed vote per your explanation. StarM 01:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:39, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete - article is about a footballer that hasn't played in a fully pro league or represented her country at senior level, which means that the article fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Keep - She's a professional player, that plays in Europe. She hasn't played in a fully pro league yet, because the only the existed was dissolved in the same year she have been picked. She also has notability --SirEdimon (talk) 23:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:GHITS is not a valid claim to notability, and the absence of a fully pro league does not alter the notability guidelines. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

She have about 487,000 results (0.32 seconds) with her name.--SirEdimon (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

My argument is she's notable. "It has 345,400 Google hits, so it is clearly of interest". So she has notability.--SirEdimon (talk) 21:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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