Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tonie Chisholm


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 11:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Tonie Chisholm

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She won a contest with 10 people in it. They don't even hold the contest annually. Total pop 57,000 people in the Cayman's (its essentially a small town). Can't find any mention of her outside winning this one event. Fails WP:NMODEL. Meets WP:BLP1E. An attempt to redirect to Miss Cayman Islands was reverted, so here we are. Delete or redirect to Miss Cayman Islands. Legacypac (talk) 14:55, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Seems like she's done more than just win a pageant based on this [Google News search]. However, all articles are from the same news outlet (Cayman 27), so I'm not sure we get to WP:N. Jeremiah (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - she will participate in both Miss World and Miss Universe. it is like the World Cup in football or the Olympics for an athlete. Notable. per WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:26, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Procedural keep, or redirect - As someone who will represent her country in Miss World/Miss Universe (which are BIG events) that is usually notable enough for a very basic stub article such as this, despite my personal opinions. Mabalu (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep This article subject has references to three different independent reliable sources and passes WP:GNG. THey include a television station and a magazine plus one other news source. The Cayman Islands is not a "small town." It is a British Territory that has its Miss Cayman Islands titleholder for this year competing in the Miss Universe contest as well as Miss World pageants.  As far as those two international pageants are concerned the winner from the Cayman Islands has an equal chance to win the international titles as well as any other contestant. The population of the place you came from or the number of contestants do not matter. The article subject has achieved notability.     WordSeventeen (talk) 08:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Your logic is faulty. I am very aware of what the Caymen's are, and the winner of this little contest is effectively the winner of a small town contest held off and on in some years between a few girls. I think it was this one who got "best legs" among 10 girls. Seriously, winning a looks contest where only 10 people compete and maybe a several thousand might be eligible in a given year (unmarried, appropriate age range, resident there) is just not a big accomplishment. In theory the winner COULD win the worldwide contest but they never place very high. Legacypac (talk) 05:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Redirect to Miss Cayman Islands, where a large, well-done table covers everything notable. (None of the prior winners have their own articles, despite some placing higher up in the rankings of subsequent international contests). Pax 21:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 16:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as no evidence of notability, Fails GNG .– Davey 2010 Talk 16:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or, in the alternative, redirect to Miss Cayman Islands. Neutralitytalk 06:26, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
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