Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Di Carlo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Tony Di Carlo

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Does not appear to be notable. At this point, the only sources quoted in the article are a YouTube link and an IMDb entry for a person with a different spelling of the name and whose first film appearance occurred when this guy was five! Web and news search find several hits, but they are Ontario real estate agents or other corporate types. Favonian (talk) 13:13, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 *  Keep  clearly shows tony di carlo as a notable person, both at academic level and under STAGE name. Surely age cannot be used as a reason for deletion?! it clearly states that he acted from an early age.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdt1 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Strikethrough added as poster has expressed a stronger Keep lower down page. Peridon (talk) 18:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 *  Keep  Clear mistake on imdb stating he played teenageboy/mechanic when casted as 'boy'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdt1 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC) --Bdt1 (talk) 15:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable per WP:ENT. Criterion 1 is "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." His roles have not been significant as the most shows he's been in for a series is four (Dynasty (TV series), which isn't particularly well-known. Criterion 2 and 3 ("large fan base" and "contributions to a field of entertainment", respectively) aren't evident, as I can find no third-party mentions of him. Mm40 (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- Mm40 (talk) 14:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 *  Keep  - obviously the user wanting to delete has a problem with the programme and this person as quite clearly Dynasty was extremely well known that lasted on US prime time television for 8 years. Admittadly the actor may not have played a lead role in them however he was also in films and other tv programmes of great PUBLIC knowledge.  Other photos are available in regards to the philips modelling competition and also it is clear when watching Gordan Ramseys The F Word that Di Carlo is in it however his name would not be credited as there would be no relevance to it, but in the actual show he is.  I do not see the prob--Bdt1 (talk) 15:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)lem in this page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdt1 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC) --Bdt1 (talk) 15:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Multiple 'Keeps' struck through. Only one !vote per !voter please. Other things are Comments. Peridon (talk) 13:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Having seen The F Word it is clear that mr.di carlo is notable and will obviously be on screen further more given time.--213.152.254.36 (talk) 15:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment — From the edit history it looks like is the IP address of, the author of the article.  Favonian (talk) 18:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - I saw this guy on last nights episode, good to see him back on screen. NOTE for above, IP address' can be the same if at the SAME location/building, does not mean it is same person  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.115.128 (talk) 20:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)  — 91.104.115.128 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Note to closing admin: so far, three "keep" !votes from user and I concur with Favonian that, based on editing patterns (such as this edit),  is likely the same person which gives a total of four "keep" !votes from the same person. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 20:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: I believe there to be a vendetta against the page from the above deleters as this is a legit person who is clearly in films/tv shows and a UK entertainment personality. Although the IP address is similar this does not mean it is the same person and as it is not clear (cannot be proven that it is the same person) the vote should stand.--Bdt1 (talk) 10:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 *  Weak Delete I would have to agree with Mm40, it would appear when you read WP:ENT he does not meet the criteria as notable. He may in the future meet the criteria but I can't see that he has yet got over that bar. Codf1977 (talk) 10:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: When you read WP:ENT 2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. This is true to Di Carlo, on the social website Facebook, he has thousands of fans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdt1 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Aside from the fact that this isn't credible proof of a "cult following" or "large fan base", it's also not true. The only fan page for a Tony Di Carlo is a football/soccer player with 44 fans. Mm40 (talk) 12:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * thats quite obviously not true as I am looking at it as I write and clearly has thousands of fans. you seem to have a problem with good looking up and coming celebrities?! --Bdt1 (talk) 13:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please leave a link either here or on my talk page (or if you have e-mail enabled on your account, e-mail me). Mm40 (talk) 13:07, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The Daily Echo link lists Tony Di Carlo as having received a BA degree. So? The imdb entry is for a totally different person altogether. That is, unless this person appeared as Sprugo at the age of 5, and even more unlikely, played a PFC in a war series at 6 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0732245/ . The Tony DeCarlo of imdb is to my mind fairly obviously an American - and rather older. Fans on Facebook? Come on... While I wish Mr Di Carlo well in his chosen career, I feel he hasn't yet achieved the notability for an article here. (I also feel that his name may be a little too close to that of the American actor who has priority by age and career length, but that is not within the scope of an AfD here - just a comment that might be of help to Mr Di Carlo.) Peridon (talk) 13:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * MUST Keep I have already noted that there are a couple of mistakes on the imdb page however it is clear that Di Carlo moved to and from the States and after appearing in and on US and UK tv series / films he is a notable person. I feel that there is some unrest here and feel that if the people who want to delete di carlo had not of seen a picture they would be voting to keep and to NOT delete.  Hopefully common sense will hopefully win in this case and the page able to stand.  --Bdt1 (talk) 14:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, WP:HOTTIE is a joke, if thats what you're basing your !vote off of  Mm40 (talk) 15:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: the above comment from Mm40 was not called for and I find this unacceptable behaviour, extremely rude and ovensive to Di Carlo.  --Bdt1 (talk) 15:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I believe there exists a possibility of WP:COI issues here. Bdt1 may be the same as the subject of the article or somehow closely related to him. I say that because Bdt1 seems to be taking delete !votes and comments quite personally as well as his claim that File:Dcmodel.png is Bdt1's own work. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 15:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Hard to prove, of course, but two months ago an article of the same name was created by as demonstrated by this.  The article was speedily deleted as non-notable.  Favonian (talk) 16:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: the above is not true whatsoever however I am tired of wikipedia being ruled by snobbyness, arrogance and all round rudeness and want to make a stand up to it. This page MUST be kept to save the integrity and future of wikipedia. thankyou.--Bdt1 (talk) 15:45, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. There is no indication that the subject of the article meets any criteria set out in either WP:ENT or WP:N. Google searches provide no verification through third party reliable sources that notability criteria are met. No prejudice towards recreation should the subject become notable in the future. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 16:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Firstly, can you only vote once please, if you wish to make further comments please use comment. Secondly Bdt1 you should stop taking this personally. Thirdly - without wishing to comment for the authors of the WP:ENT, I suspect when they said Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. they did not have in mind a Social Network where you can get a following by doing very little. Fourthly - If, as I suspect it will be, the discussion is to delete the page, you could always ask for it to be moved to your user space so you can carry working on it and when he does meet WP:ENT you can ask for it to be moved back.Codf1977 (talk) 16:23, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment So even if he went to America, how did he still manage to play a PFC when he was 6? There's no indication that this was a 'kiddy' thing like Bugsy Malone. I am assuming that Private First Class is meant, rather than Peterhead F.C. or any other PFC. There's also no mention in the article about writing or producing, which Tony DeCarlo was doing in 2004, along with acting in the film. I echo Codf1977 about the unreliability of followings on social networks. In respect of "if the people who want to delete di carlo had not of seen a picture", I would also like to point out that I couldn't care a tinker's cuss what Di Carlo looks like. (I care slightly that it should read 'should not've' or 'should not have', but that's a professional concern on my part.) I quote again: "I am tired of wikipedia being ruled by snobbyness, arrogance and all round rudeness". If this is the case, you are at liberty to start your own encyclopaedia, or go somewhere like aboutus or linkedin, in both of which promotional or self-promotional articles are quite acceptable. Here, they are not. Produce evidence that we consider reliable and meaningful, and you'll find us helpful. (Well, a lot of us anyway.) On the basis of what's there, no go. Getting wound up doesn't help your case. In fact, it harms it. Calm down and produce the goods. That will help. Peridon (talk) 18:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Endless ranting here by Bdt1 but no evidence of notabilty added to the article. Sgroupace (talk) 07:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable per WP:ENT. Evalpor (talk) 21:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete for now. I hope the bevy of WP:SPA's unerstand that although the body of his work might be pressing at ENT, it does not quite hit the bar. Due to lack of reliable sources, the BLP curently fails.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep -this is defo a keeper --91.104.110.182 (talk) 11:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC) — 91.104.110.182 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Could you give your reasons, please? This is a discussion not a voting session. Without reasons, your post will probably be ignored, especially as you have little or no editing history. Peridon (talk) 13:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - does not seem to satisfy WP:ENT. SPAs, etc. usually do not help a subject's case.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  23:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin: I have asked Bdt1 on his talk page to explain the copyright statements he made when adding two images he has used on the page (File:Dcmodel.png & File:Tdcfword.png), Favonian has also identified a potential issue with a third File:Tonydc.png, ‎if the decision is to delete the article can you also review them to see if they need to be actioned as well. (link to Bdt1 Commons files) Thanks Codf1977 (talk) 14:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simply fails WP:ENT. Might pass it some day, but not yet. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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