Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tora (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Existence !=notability. The discussions that question the lack of sourcing to meet WP:NMUSIC are most clear - WP:GNG is not optional, and Wikipedia is not a list of musical acts the panda ₯’  23:16, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Tora (band)

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Promo. (No proof that any of their songs or EPs charted or was issued by a real record company.) The Banner talk 09:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * CommentThat's a stupid reason to delete a page. They clearly exist, and are therefore worth documenting.71.186.247.32 (talk) 11:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Helped with formatting, if you want to keep the article change "Comment" to "Keep" :-) ♥ Solarra ♥  ♪ Talk ♪  ߷  ♀ Contribs ♀ 11:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Article is well sourced and establishes the band's notability. ♥ Solarra ♥  ♪ Talk ♪  ߷  ♀ Contribs ♀ 11:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Well sourced, plenty of information, and definitely notable in my view. Don't see a good enough reason to delete. Adamh4 (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment this isn';t my subject really, but it does read like an overly detailed article for non-notable releases.  DGG ( talk ) 03:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep -- As reviewer, I have seen the old AfC nomination and hence checked the sources and even fixed it. An unnecessary AfD Nomination. The Herald (talk) 07:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * AfD? Or do you mean AfC? The Banner talk 17:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry.. The herald  12:32, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey The Herald, what notability criterion applies, according to your review? Or are you just arguing GNG? Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 09:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep -- As the creator of this page I hold natural bias, however I do believe that this page meets the criteria set out by Wikipedia. (https://www.triplejunearthed.com/artist/tora). The song-box marked 'These Eyes' displays a red marching drum, a symbol representing national radio play, and therefore consideration in national radio charts. The article has been well sourced and improved with the help of 'The Herald' and perhaps others. It's on these merits I do believe this article warrants the use of 54kb in the Wiki database. As a blooming band this article will only become more concise and worthy of documentation. Thedrunkenship 10:09, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Is there any proof that any of their songs, EP, albums or how it is called today ever charted? Because being played or merely existing is not enough for the assumption of notability. The Banner talk 17:22, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Thedrunkenship, do you have any association with the subject of the article? i.e. Are you a member, management, or an avid fan?shaidar cuebiyar (talk)
 * Delete. Article is not well sourced and fails to establish the band's notability. Tora lacks coverage in independent relaible sources. The article does have a lot of sources very few of them are reliable. The only two independent sources here worth considering are the Byron Shire Echo and the ABC North Coast NSW. Both are just local interest pieces, nothing substantial. The former is mainly the band talking about themselves (primary) so fitting into the exception described in WP:MUSIC#1. The latter lacks any depth of coverage. Tora has been played on Triple J (as shown by the unearthed link) but it is not rotation and does not give them any charting. ("consideration in national radio charts" is a meaningless claim). This is an overly promotional piece for an up and coming band that's not yet notable. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:56, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * NOTE please note the related navbox Tora is also up for deletion -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:05, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, I have to admit I don't see how they meet WP:MUSIC. There are lots of references, but they're pretty much poor quality, self-published stuff that's been thrown at the article like a handful of mud to see if anything will stick.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete - sheer weight of bad sources doesn't establish noteworthiness - David Gerard (talk) 18:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete – Δεν είναι τώρα (English:Not now) Insufficient RS for notability. More work by subject of the article to become more widely known is required.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.