Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toronto Regional Real Estate Board


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No valid arguments made towards for the merge and it is single vote against the keep vote where participants agree (come in consensus) with AleatoryPonderings. I find nothing to close this as a redirect cum merge. Hence keeping this. (non-admin closure) Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 06:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Toronto Regional Real Estate Board

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Article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRIT. WP:BEFORE showed WP:ROUTINE local coverage, but not WP:SIGCOV / WP:IS that covers the subject directly and in depth which would indicate that the subject is "worthy of note".  // Timothy ::  talk  08:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   // Timothy ::  talk  08:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   // Timothy ::  talk  08:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SIGCOV. Toronto real estate is a buzzy topic so it gets hits, but is the only thing approaching SIGCOV I could find, and it's not good enough. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, with thanks to for reminding me to search under the old name. Here are some sources. NB: I found most on ProQuest; these are major papers so they're probably on Newspapers.com/similar, but I don't have access to that.


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. There are more hits using the organization's previous name. (For example, in Real Estate Riches: A Money-Making Game Plan for the Canadian Investor and Commercial Real Estate Investing in Canada: The Complete Reference for Real Estate Professionals.) There are also hits for "TREB" and "TREBnet" on Google News (though many of these are press releases). This also warrants a search of (Canadian) newspaper archives, given the age of this organization. Mind  matrix  18:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. The change from TREB to TRREB does indeed cause some difficulty in finding articles. With that said, I'd recommend considering them one and the same (it's just a name change). In terms of recent articles referencing the new name, regional and national newspapers are regularly releasing monthly trend reports, for example: references TRREB in the opening article. In terms of articles critical of TRREB, there's this one from a few days ago:

Dhritzkiv (talk) 18:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amkgp  💬  15:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm sure it is a fine organization, but the above sources are WP:ROUTINE coverage. The question is what makes this entity stand out for an entry in an encyclopedia per WP:N? I'd be glad to switch to keep if there is something beyond WP:ROUTINE; if I'm missing something, please let me know.  // Timothy ::  talk  17:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * A lot of the coverage of this org is routine, it's true—especially given how breathless TO real estate coverage can be—but I have trouble seeing how the sources in the two reflist-talk templates above are routine. I count three decent-size articles in CBC News, Canada's national broadcaster, that feature the org in the headline. Here's another: . IMV, "routine" in this context means something like "associated with regular, generic events" such as quarterly housing data reports. While some of these articles reference those reports, they don't seem like generic coverage that WP:ROUTINE is intended to weed out. It's an arguable point, though. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per AleatoryPonderings. MB 01:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge with Toronto My first choice is delete, but Merge is acceptable as a compromise second choice; it works as well as a delete and editors at the merge target can work on it.  // Timothy ::  talk  03:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, I find that an implausible merge target. This is a trade association unaffiliated with the city government. An organization's being located in a city is not grounds to merge it to the article on the city. If we had something like Housing in Toronto or Real estate in Toronto (articles I have considered creating on more than one occasion, btw; this AfD might persuade me to take the plunge …) those would be appropriate merge targets. But Toronto itself seems like a real reach. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 03:17, 31 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources presented by AleatoryPonderings and others demonstrate a pass of GNG, no reasonable merge target is present. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:N Based on sources brought to this AfD. Thanks to AleatoryPonderings and others. Wm335td (talk) 18:09, 31 August 2020 (UTC)


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