Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Total Dhamaal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. A redirect can be done independently of this debate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:54, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Total Dhamaal

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Cites no sources, scant content. No evidence of notability. Lineslarge (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Wikipedia is not IMDb. The article asserts no notability on the film, failing both film notability guidelines and the general notability guideline.  I have found very little significant coverage from independent, reliable sources, no major reviews, no indication that it's not just run of the mill.    Dr Strauss   talk   15:11, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment:Would have voted delete were it not for my fear of turning up to vote for keep. Anyway this fails WP:NFF as principal photography has not yet begun.  Jupitus Smart  15:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Here I am... but not a keep, something else NOT a flat deletion.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:07, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:04, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect: An article NEVER has to say "this topic is notable", as that unspoken statement is to be inferred from actuality avaialability of sources, not their use... and while yes, one can look at what was brought here to AFD and certainly agree that it is unsourced (correctable via WP:HANDLE) and if one actually looks for them first, one might then be able to determine if the multiple sources speaking toward the topic of this production meets WP:NEXIST and WP:GNG to then see that the topic is sneaking up on WP:NFF.,, et al. And thus, with actual attention to sources speaking about this topic, it is fair to state that various aspects of the production are getting coverage in a more than "trivial" manner. IE: Times of India (1), Hindustan Times (1), First Post, and NDTV, Financial Times Times of India (2), Hindustan Times (2), Bollywood News'', and many more
 * That clarified, the issue is that it has not yet begin filming, but Hindustani Times(3) does imply that it will start later this year. So for now, as per suggested by policy and guideline, I urge a redirect to a sourced mention in the article of the film's director Indra Kumar and in the prequels at Dhamaal (film series). The article can always be returned and improved after filming is confirmed and, if anyone wishes a nowiki'd copy to work on while we wait, I'd say let him do so.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:07, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Has significant coverage:


 * The article can be expanded quite easily. --Hameltion (talk, contribs) 21:48, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Having further read what Schmidt wrote, I think his redirect option is in order. --Hameltion (talk, contribs) 21:50, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Has significant coverage by Times of India (1) and many others, passes WP:GNG and WP:RS. WP:NTEMP says This article topic has lot of significant coverage mostly by reliable Indian news media. Anoptimistix (talk) 12:01, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


 * While yes, the GNG IS met though the numerous sources in multiple languages speaking in detail about various aspects of the film's production. BUT under the guide WP:NFF and essay TOO SOON, we await confirmation of filming (in any language) first. UNTIL that time this topic may be spoken of elsewhere. Once filming has been confirmed, I'd be happy to restore the article or a better draft. 06:08, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG.-Umair Aj (talk) 18:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but as shown above, while topic WP:GNG is met, the issue is really about the failure of WP:NFF, and how under WP:ATD we have alternatives.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:08, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


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