Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Total Linhas Aéreas Flight 5561


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Total Linhas Aéreas Flight 5561
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Tragic but not notable cargo plane crash. Cargo plane accidents are quite common. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  01:16, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The accident and the subsequent investigation led to changes in the flight procedures for the ATR-42 and ATR-72 aircraft, with the addition of new emergency procedures, new maintenance requirements for the aircraft, and new training and flight regulations for the airline involved.  These aren't presently in the English version of the article, but the Portuguese version of the article ("Mudanças" section) goes over those changes at length.  RecycledPixels (talk) 17:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep not a notable plane crash but it changed the flight procedures of the ATR's like said above, and on the final report, when i read when i was adding the "Mudanças" part, while making the portuguese article, i saw i remember around 6 changes on the report. Iyusi766 (talk) 23:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Lots of Keep votes but can this be reflected in article improvement? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:33, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Based on my reading on the Portuguese article (that should be added to the English wiki) significant changes are being made after the result of the incident. For instance: including an emergency procedure regarding the triggering of the elevator trim, revising current technical publication of the aircraft, changing how the elevator trim for ATR aircraft is certified, and improving crew management. SunDawn  talk  08:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – I'm not sure why the fact that it was a cargo flight would make it less notable, and I question the notion implied by the proposer that cargo flight accidents are more common than passenger flight ones. The aircraft type involved is indeed far more commonly used as a passenger airliner, and any technical factor in any accident on the type would likely affect the entire fleet and the hundreds of thousands of passenger it transports. --Deeday-UK (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - there should be no elevation of notability for passenger-carrying aircraft. An airliner was lost with all on board. Changes were made post-accident. Thus it meets our notability threshold. Mjroots (talk) 06:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Incident appears to have had a lasting impact as a result of the subsequent investigation and changes made NemesisAT (talk) 14:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment Needing improvement is not a reason to delete an article via AfD. Mjroots (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


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