Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Total Linhas Aereas Flight 5561


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Numerically more users commented in favor to keeping the article, but  I'm not seeing a clear policy-based argument in there. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Total Linhas Aereas Flight 5561

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Tragic but not notable cargo plane crash. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete. If the ATR-42 was carrying passengers and not cargo this probably would've been notable (I think I might update WP:AIRCRASH in this regard). As is - the sources in the article do not establish SIGCOV, and I do not see much else. Icewhiz (talk) 09:07, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I understand cargo flights are not as notable and SIGCOV is lacking but we do have two fatalities and a destroyed aircraft. Please see Loganair Flight 670A and Skyway Enterprises Flight 7101. I found the final accident report (in Spanish) and if this article survives I'll add detail (and there is plenty) best as I can. - Samf4u (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article does not mention this, but the aviation-safety.net reference says that the crash led to an airworthiness directive for the ATR-42.  However, this fact needs better sources than the air crash databases to establish significance.  Notability is not established, but it can be minimally asserted. • Gene93k (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~SS49~   {talk}  12:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I don't hold with the view that cargo flights are not as notable as passenger flights. We have a relatively large airlined that was destroyed. Article needs improvement, but that is not a reason to delete. Mjroots (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Aircraft with passengers generate more news items and subsequent follow on sources. Losing a 19MUSD airframe and 2 crew - well - is not as noteworthy. But what matters are the sources (AIRCRASH is merely an essay) - if you are advocating retention - please provide a few reliable in-depth sources.Icewhiz (talk) 22:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Considering the outcome of the accident, it qualifies the criteria in WP:AIRCRASH, all the article needs is expansion on the current content MegaFlyCraft (talk) 14:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  17:31, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
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