Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City (FA Cup 2003-04)


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The result was   merge to FA Cup 2003-04. BJ Talk 19:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City (FA Cup 2003-04)

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Contested prod for a non notable sporting event. Whilst the game may have been thrilling, and gained coverage as all games do, I'm unable to find any support in independent reliable sources for the claim of notability and no coverage after the event. Nuttah (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge I think the article should be merged with this instead of a delete  SparksBoy (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Unless the notability can be sourced why does this game deserve expanding compared with the rest on that list? Nuttah (talk) 17:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete A single game in the early stages of the competition really doesn't need its own article, regardless of the score or the drama of the match (and I'm not just saying that as a Spurs fan who'd prefer to see that sad story disappear under the rug!). -- Blue Squadron  Raven  21:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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 * Merge to FA Cup 2003-04 - Yes, it was a thrilling match, and, yes, no-one could see that Man City would turn around a 3-0 deficit with 10 men away from home, but I can't see how it's any more notable than, say, Chelsea being knocked out by Barnsley in the 2008 competition. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  15:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to FA Cup 2003-04. Possibly not worth its own page but it is certainly well out of the ordinary and certainly merits its own section in the target. Plenty of reliable sources; this and this is a good start. TerriersFan (talk) 19:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. They are match reports, and I could provide similar for any game involving a Premiership team. To establish a level of notability for even a merge - giving this game greater precedent in a seasons worth of games - surely we need a level of coverage beyond that weekend. Nuttah (talk) 19:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, a quick search round finds Hereford_United_v_Newcastle_United_1972. I'd say the refs at the end of this are what's needed here. Coverage down the line rather than a match report. Nuttah (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I quote from the Guardian "This may well be as great a comeback as English football has ever known" and Kevin Keegan "They'll talk about this game long after we're dead and gone" .If you find similar comments in another match report then please feel free to add that match somewhere. In the context of the target this is clealry well out of the ordinary and well worth some coverage. In my view this should never have come here but simply merged. I would add that WP:N (though compliance with WP:N is not needed for a merge) requires substantial coverage in reliable sources which this game has. There is no requirement for "surely we need a level of coverage beyond that weekend". TerriersFan (talk) 19:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Notability is a guideline, not a hard and fast. In terms of sporting coverage, such as football involving Premiership teams (and lower) where match coverage is guaranteed, it is reasonably common consensus the 'notability' needs more than a number of match reports. Nuttah (talk) 19:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


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 * Delete - This is not a notable football match by any stretch of the imagination. It's not a record scoreline for the competition, nor - I'm sure - is it a record comeback. – PeeJay 22:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Early round matches can be notable, but this one doesn't strike me as such. Put it this way, if you were writing the article on the history of one or both of these clubs, would the match gain a mention? No way. Compare to Bayern Munich v Norwich City and Hereford United v Newcastle United 1972, both of which would appear in one club's history. Delete. --Dweller (talk) 22:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Dweller, non-notable match. GiantSnowman 08:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to that season's FA Cup article. As much as it brings back memories for me, and was the most notable FA Cup match of the decade for either club, mentioning the nature of the comeback in the season's FA Cup article would be sufficient. Oldelpaso (talk) 09:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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