Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tough Tom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While the difficulty of accessing old print sources is a valid concern, that in and of itself is insufficient to keep an article lacking other evidence of notability. At the very least, we would need evidence that print coverage existed. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:39, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Tough Tom

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Unreferenced BLP. WP:BEFORE with the stage name and the legal name have not helped to find references. Fails WP:GNG Fiddle   Faddle  22:51, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Why are you doing this? Just leave it. There are many people on this website who are lesser known, just because I want his tag team partner to have an article too, doesn't mean you should hatefully try to take this down as well. This is seriously a disheartening experience and it's cruel of you to try to take this down. 6SyXx6 (talk) 18:19, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @6SyXx6 We will interpret that as a suggestion that you wish to Keep this article. Please understand that a simple opinion expressed as if this were a ballot does not hold much sway. We need arguments based upon policy.
 * I "did it" because in another place you drew the community's attention to three articles. This one was deficient in referencing and, indeed I was unable to find any or I would have added sufficient references to allow us to retain it. It is not cruel. It is impersonal. Wikipedia improves if the article is found references and kept; Wikipedia improves if an unreferencable article is removed. Fiddle   Faddle  22:11, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete There's a brand of bicycle tire called "Tough Tom" but filtering out bike related links shows no significant coverage of the wrestler other than database entries and fan blogs. Fails WP:GNG. CodeTalker (talk) 18:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Soft delete As an equivalent to a BLP prod, since the article has been tagged for deletion for 7 days and no sources have been added. Per the strict requirements of WP:BLP, this needs to go. A quick search fails to find any significant coverage, but I don't know if this would be covered in more specialist sources, so not giving a final opinion on that. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:36, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sources have been added now. This page needs to be put up for IMPROVEMENT, not DELETION. Most of the sources I should be referencing are Peurto Rican and American wrestling magazines from the 90's that are no longer in publication. I can't access those publications. How do I reference print media that has been gone for 25 years? 6SyXx6 (talk) 18:37, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources you added are from wrestling-titles.com, wrestlingclassics.com, tripod.com, scribd.com, reddit.com, cagematch.net, wwfoldschool.com, wrestlingdata.com and tripadvisor.com. Per WP:RSP, scribd and reddit are generally unreliable sources. wrestling-titles seems to be a self-published blog and is therefore not reliable. tripod.com is a blog. cagematch seems to be self-published as well; at least they don't say anything about their editorial policies. Same with wwfoldschool. Furthermore, not a single one of these references contains significant coverage of the subject. Most are simple database entries about the wrestler or a match, or a sentence or two about one of his matches, or in some cases just a photo. None of these do anything to establish notability. CodeTalker (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for destroying something I was trying to fix. Tom Benninghaus and Mike Moran deserved better for all the money they drew in Peurto Rico. You destroyed that dream of having them both be seen as notable people due to their contributions to the Pro Wrestling industry. You are hateful. You all have no soul. You went after an article I referenced because I tried to get his tag partner a page. You mods here make me sick, do you feel better now? I made a CLEAR CASE that most of the publications and references I could give were from actual Magazines from the 90's which you can't find online. I am done with Wikipedia. There's so many lesser known perfomrers with a Wiki page, go on, seek them out and destroy their memory too. 6SyXx6 (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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