Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tourism in London


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 16:22, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Tourism in London

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This looks as if it should be at WikiVoyage. The economics are already better covered on the London page and everything else is opinion or guide and directory material failing WP:NOT. The subject can be adequately covered on the London page without this fork which acts as a coatrack for directory material. Charles (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 02:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm not against the article in theory, but the risk of coat-racking is high. Can this be transwikied while not harming this project? Bearian (talk) 18:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 00:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete We must always keep in mind what Wikipedia is not. According to policy, Wikipedia is not a travel guide.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  02:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep the topic is obviously notable, considering it represents half 10% of the business revenue of the city. Take out the tourist guide stuff and put in some historical information. Kitfoxxe (talk) 04:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to WikiVoyage or delete. Wikipedia is not a tourist guide. J I P  &#124; Talk 07:02, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete OMG, if this was an article for a company, I'd have it deleted for being WP:SPAM or WP:HOWTO. If there's a place in Wikisphere, it's at Wikivoyage, not here. Indeed the topic should be a notable one, but little of the content is relevant to our context, and we may as well start again from scratch.  Ohconfucius  ping / poke 07:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete Keep as amended by Oakshade. I agree that the present article content is really for Wikivoyage. But WP does have other similarly titled articles such as Tourism in New York City and Kitfoxxe makes the point that the subject is undoubtedly notable in WP terms. There are plenty of sources for a good article just on the history of London tourism, let alone the current tourist industry. There does not seem anything worthwhile to merge with the Wikivoyage article, so not so much a case of transwiki as blowing up and starting again. In the meantime, a redirect without prejudice to recreation with clear demarkation between this and Wikivoyage, unless there is a volunteer to take it on now (not me, I live in another tourist city which needs better coverage). --AJHingston (talk) 10:52, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Tourism in London is a multi-billion pound business and is definitely a notable topic in itself. Unfortunately this article is written like a travel guild. It needs re-working. That's not a reason for deletion in itself. How the tourist business developed over the years, how it increased (and decreased ) over time is what's needed. --Oakshade (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as article bluntly violates WP:NOTTRAVEL right now. Deleting, redirecting/merging, or keeping this won't make much of a difference since the article needs to literally be rewritten from scratch to meet Wikipedia standards and guidelines, so overhauling an existing article won't be easier than creating a new one. Deleting this without prejudice against recreation might be better than keeping it in hopes that someone will fix it, which will not happen overnight nor will be completed in a quick fashion, but hey, if someone can do that before the AfD closes, I am willing to change my vote. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 22:25, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Notice - If there's no objection, I'm going to delete most of the travel guide-esque content of this article and preserve just the intro and the "Economics of tourism in London" section. That way it can be a stub that editors can properly grow from in the perspective of the tourism business and impacts. -- Oakshade (talk) 03:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)  Done. --Oakshade (talk) 15:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep but heavily prune -- An article with this title should exist, but the travel guide material belongs in wikivoyage. Oakshade has got it about right.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep A well established type of article here, including the travel highlights. Perhaps we should reconsider the type of content in such articles now that we have wikivoyage, but I think their coverage on this would become much more encompassing than this, and this is a summary appropriate for WP. And in any case, the content that Oakshade highlights is appropriate.  DGG ( talk ) 03:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep but prune. I've little doubt that the general topic of tourism in London is a topic which can be encyclopedic (size of the tourist trade, related tourism growth organizations and governmental efforts, perhaps a short sourced list of most popular destinations). There is a place here for both Wikipedia *and* Wikivoyage. --j⚛e deckertalk 01:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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