Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Towns in A Series of Unfortunate Events


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete; except for DGG's, the only keeps arguments put forth center on what else exists. &mdash; Coren (talk) 04:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Towns in A Series of Unfortunate Events

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This article asserts no notability through reliable sourcing, and as such is just an in-universe plot repetition of story elements from the articles on the Series of Unfortunate Events books. It is thus duplicative and should be deleted. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - as is fails WP:SOURCE needs to get some reliable references in there.  Sting_au   Talk  21:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep How is this page different from Places in Harry Potter? This page is one of five pages which contain information that used to be on a List of Locations in a Series of Unfortunate Events page, but was moved to Towns in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Watercraft in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Geographic locations in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Business locations in A Series of Unfortunate Events, and Houses in A Series of Unfortunate Events after a long discussion on numerous article talk pages and the Lemony Snicket Wikiproject talk page. If you insist this article be deleted, then what is holding you back from nominating all the aforementioned pages as well as Places in Harry Potter, List of Middle-earth rivers (referring to Lord of the Rings), and Realms of Arda (also referring to Lord of the Rings)? Seriously, I'm curious. Clamster 02:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not here to discuss how this page is different from all the other articles you mention. This AfD is for Towns in A Series of Unfortunate Events and I'm not even bothering to look at the other articles. By the way. Is that (because it's no different) your justification for voting to keep? Did you bother to check WP:SOURCE?  Sting_au   Talk  13:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to go through the books and get a cite for each sentence in the article? I can get you a book title, chapter number, page number, even line number for each sentence. If that doesn't provide the references you so desire, there's really not much else I can do. Clamster 15:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That is not the primary issue; the main one would be that there isn't anything like a commentary on how this was created, and what the influences were in creating the town, etc. Get about 3 of them and you have multiple reliable sources. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete nothing more then plot sumaries of non-notable fictional locations. Ridernyc (talk) 04:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The main elements of fiction are plot characters and setting, and any article discussing multiple settings in a important series of works is notable. Not every town in it would be notable enough for an article, but the group article like this is appropriate coverage. There is no consensus whatsoever that secondary sources are needed for material o this sort. DGG (talk) 08:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So we ignore WP:Plot now? call it want you want it's nothing but plot summaries with no real world context. Ridernyc (talk) 13:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Clearly fails our notability policies and guidelines. Unreferenced, trivial and crufty. Eusebeus (talk) 15:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of meeting WP:FICTION Secret account 22:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per notability and verifiability (appearances in books, video game, movie, etc.), but possibly rename and expand as Locations in A Series of Unfortunate Events. Best, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 17:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But what about it meeting WP:FICTION Secret account 21:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I would just like to restate what I said before, in response to Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles's suggestion:
 * This page is one of five pages which contain information that used to be on a List of Locations in a Series of Unfortunate Events page, but was moved to Towns in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Watercraft in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Geographic locations in A Series of Unfortunate Events, Business locations in A Series of Unfortunate Events, and Houses in A Series of Unfortunate Events after a long discussion on numerous article talk pages and the Lemony Snicket Wikiproject talk page. Clamster 03:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails notability at WP:FICT, has no secondary sources, unnecessary plot repetition. • 97198   talk  11:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.