Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Townville Elementary School shooting


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 00:06, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Townville Elementary School shooting

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WP:NOTNEWS. John from Idegon (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nominator. Meatsgains (talk) 02:59, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nominator. A1b2C3d4 (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Carolina-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete, WP:NOTNEWS. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable, received a lot of media attention, very tragic but memorable 73.162.238.253 (talk) 22:15, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Keep As per extensive coverage, plus the fact that the perp survived and there is 14 years old means that there is already geographically extensive coverage of the question of whether he will be tried as an adult (coverage of perp here:) Certainly, if not kept it should be WP:REDIRECTed to List of school shootings in the United States, but my opinion is that the coverage of the event and the legal proceedings in its wake carry this past WP:GNG, and it is preferable to keep an event about a crime, than to create a separate article about the perp (whose age has already generated an unusual amount of coverage).E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:16, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, if WP:NOTNEWS, then why bother creating and updating election news in Wikipedia (for example, the plethora of information on the 2016 USA Presidential election) as it happens? Why not wait until it has been settled, and then create a (much more concise) article about it?
 * Also, according to wikipedia guidelines, space is not an issue.
 * Also, a main road is now being named after the youngest murder victim.
 * Of course, given the sheer number of school shootings in the USA, perhaps this is indeed a non-notable event. :/ --98.122.20.56 (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, NOTNEWS is irrelevant to extensive coverage and media attention. rationales are the main issue.BabbaQ (talk) 19:19, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 23:15, 23 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Keep or move - Keep, or move to Townville Elementary School. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that the school is not a notable subject. It's currently a redirect to the community article and it is very doubtful inclusion of information on the shooting would elevate it to notable. It would be 1E. John from Idegon (talk) 22:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 *  Delete or merge  to the town's article, which is currently a stub, or to the list article of american school shootings. Note that current sourcing is shockingly bad, to the Mail (a shamefully inappropriate source), and everipedia (never heard of it, but it claims to hold all wikipedia content, and more !!). -Roxy the dog™ bark 12:48, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 *  Comment - I would absolutely be on board with "[merging] to the town's article, which is currently a stub, or to the list article of american school shootings". --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of school shootings in the United States, where it is already listed. As the list shows, such shootings are all too common. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:43, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per E.M.Gregor. I also have to note that these shootings pass GNG for widespread coverage. That they have become all too common does not negate their notability.   Montanabw (talk) 08:21, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


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