Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toxic Joint Syndrome


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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Toxic Joint Syndrome

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A neologism, per the 2nd source.

Firstly, the current sources are no good.

The website "alternativemedicine.com" is not a suitable source per WP:MEDRS.

The second source "medicineuptotheminute.com" also is not suitable. It links to this commercial site which is trying to sell this product.

So if we can't use the current sources, the article topic is possibly non notable...

There is one google books result (which is one of the above sources)

And no pubmed search results

If this is a notable medical term then probably someone would have mentioned it in a reliable medical publication. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 00:27, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The device in question appears to be a kind of Low level laser therapy. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 21:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


 * This gets more suspect... The user who created this page also created the page "Dr Ronald Shapiro", which was also deleted as promotional (Articles for deletion/Dr. Ronald Shapiro). This character is one of the people involved in the company selling this device . It is possible there is a conflict of interest. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 04:45, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a GREAT catch Matthew!  04:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: Marketing neologism. The article itself demonstrates the invalidity by defining the term (first) and then defining it as the overuse of a joint, mostly due to osteoarthritis. That makes this "malady" osteoarthritis by a cute trade name, and the cute name is to sell stuff or garner clicks. ("But Steve, I don't have arthritis. Mine's a lot worse than that! I have toxic joint syndrome, and I need my special willow branch and copper bracelet and magnets and pills of hydrogen monoxide.") Hithladaeus (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Not an accepted or notable medical condition. Pubmed brings up zero articles on the topic. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 11:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. North America1000 20:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - As per proposer, this term is a neologism, so the lack of references is not unexpected. Drchriswilliams (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NEO. Artw (talk) 23:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete No reliable sources, spam.  02:51, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Alt med spam... AndyTheGrump (talk)
 * Delete this spam, per the (unanimously expressed) considerations above. [Maybe time to close?] 109.155.60.103 (talk) 14:02, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Snowball delete. Fairly obvious spam. JFW &#124; T@lk  17:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.