Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tracie D. Hall


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The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Tracie D. Hall

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This person does not meet WP:NOTABILITY standards. Her predecessor at the same organization likewise had her page deleted. ABT021 (talk) 01:25, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Comment ABT021, do you have a link to the deletion discussion for Hall's predecessor? Furius (talk) 11:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Furius I don’t have that link but her predecessor was named in the article with a discontinued Mary Ghikas link, indicating that she at one time had her own Wikipedia page. Neither she nor Tracie Hall are notable by Wikipedia standards. ABT021 (talk) 18:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don’t see that an article for Mary Ghikas was deleted. One has never been created. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  10:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep What, exactly, is the rationale by which the executive director of the oldest and largest library association in the world non-notable? I do understand that notability is not inherited, but I would think that the executive director of an organization dedicated to collecting and documenting sources would, by the very definition, be someone for whom there were many documented sources.  She has published multiple articles in American Libraries magazine, which is associated with the organization she heads, but also she has published articles there going back prior to her appointment as Executive Director.  UC Santa Barbara's library did an interview with her.  So did Publisher's Weekly.  Google Scholar has a losting of 6 published scholarly articles.  I find this AfD puzzling as there is no rationale given and no indication that the nominator followed WP:BEFORE. Hyperion35 (talk) 20:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. The nominator's rationale is vague, but Hall satisfies WP:GNG. For example, she's the subject (and title!) of chapter 9 in Real Role Models: Successful African Americans Beyond Pop Culture  (University of Texas Press; 2013). Her predecessor, Mary Ghikas, is probably notable, too, but nobody's started a page for her, yet. pburka (talk) 22:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. The interviews and book chapter linked above, and PW article about her hiring, give enough in-depth coverage for WP:GNG for me. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * weak Keep. GNG is weak as there is only two RS, the Role Models piece and PW, the other one is a promo piece by her alma mater, and publishing in a magazine does not make one notable (otherwise all academics would be notable). But as the head of American Library Association I would say she is notable
 * Keep. Tracie Hall is the executive director of an organization that has 55,000 members. Skvader (talk) 04:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as in my opinion as a library worker any head of the American Library Association is notable for that reason alone. It's not only a large organization but it has clout beyond its membership.--Dan Carkner (talk) 04:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Tracie Hall is leads a massive organization made up of professional workers and is often in the news Brimwats (talk) 11:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for all the reasons described above. Hall is executive director of a prominent national association and has received substantial independent coverage in the press and professional literature. I was also able to incorporate several reliable secondary sources into the article, further demonstrating the subject's notability. Topshelver (talk) 12:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Folks above have done a great job of outlining multiple reasons (independent articles, leadership of a national org, etc.) that Hall's page should remain. Enthusiasticsquirrel (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Never, ever mess with the bookpeople. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


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