Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Track access controller (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to London Underground. There's no consensus to either delete or merge, but there's consensus to not keep the article, so redirection is a compromise that allows merging if desired.  Sandstein  07:47, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Track access controller
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This does not meet WP:GNG. If this was a common position at multiple subways/railroads, it would be notable, but as far as I can tell this particular job is specific to the London Underground. The article is pure original research (WP:OR). Rusf10 (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There is sigcov in the book People and Rail Systems, but that was the only one I could find, and GNG needs multiple. (Google Books had a hit on Down the Tube but I checked this source and it was only a passing mention) Jumpytoo Talk 02:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge. Much of this article reads like a job advert and is unsuitable for Wikipedia, it's also not notable enough for a stand-alone article but the small usable parts of the article should be merged to a broader topic of which it is a notable part. I'm not sure what that article is, but possibly one about railway engineering work or railway maintenance roles as there will be an equivalent role (or role(s) which include these responsibilities) on other networks. For example, on Network Rail there is a role called "Site access controller" which seems to be essentially the same role as this. Thryduulf (talk)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –&#8239;Joe (talk) 09:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge, with London Underground. There is some useful content here but there are not enough available sources to support a standalone article. The term is only used in reference to the system used on the London underground. SailingInABathTub (talk) 10:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * London Underground is probably too high-level a target for the merge. While this name might be exclusive to LU the role itself is not - a direct equivalent exists in Network Rail under a different name (site access controller). Other networks likely also have their equivalent roles under different names too. Thryduulf (talk) 00:06, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is  not specific tho, as  says, the   job title and work-qualification details are.  The article should be generalized. I'm sure we have editors who could do that  DGG ( talk ) 06:44, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:51, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If we can't identify a suitable merge target, then keeping the article is preferable to deletion (for which there isn't justification) in my view. Thryduulf (talk) 20:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep And generalize, as this job is not exclusive to the London UndergroundJackattack1597 (talk) 11:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as wp:or and wp:junk. Declaring 13 years after deprodding and nothing changing that "we have editors who could" improve this is an optimistic statement to say the least. Absent any evidence of sigcov in rss, this article remains non-compliant with mos and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Avilich (talk) 17:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, run of the mill job, 14 years without one cite says it all. Lilporchy (talk) 01:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability not established for this very specific job on the London Underground. MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.