Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tracy Lee Stum


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:04, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Tracy Lee Stum

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This article has been around for a while but does not include any reliable sources that significantly discuss the subject, and I am unable to find any. brings up fewer than 100 results. Having a Guinness world record is not in and of itself an indicator of notability. ... disco spinster   talk  21:50, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Women,  and Pennsylvania. Shellwood (talk) 21:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. I had a lot more success searching than the nom and made significant improvements to the article. As someone who opened two museums and was identified by CNN as a world leader in her field, as someone who won a world record, she seems clearly notable to me, and despite some of the sources I added being primary, I think she still gets a clear pass at WP:BASIC CT55555 (talk) 00:14, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The CNN story linked is a series of 12 photos with small captions, non-extensive sourcing. I don't find any critical discussion of her work, or much of anything we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 00:35, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Here is some brief critical analysis at least. I hope to add more soon. https://publish.illinois.edu/8tocreate/2019/01/23/featured-artist-tracy-lee-stum/ CT55555 (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That's promotional copy lifted directly from her website. Jfire (talk) 01:25, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for pointing that out. My bad. CT55555 (talk) 16:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The sources aren't enough to establish notability. They are all either non-independent (reproducing marketing copy from her website, promoting a tourist attraction showing her work) or non-significant (brief mentions of Stum as one street artist among many). I don't see much better sources available either. Jfire (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Change to keep -- Beccaynr did much better than I did at finding sources and I think has found enough to satisfy WP:BIO. Thanks for the thorough search. Jfire (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting after improvements to the article and sources presented in the discussion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:11, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - sources with some secondary context and/or commentary about her and her work in India include: 'We need more pavements in Mumbai to promote street art' (Hindustan Times, 2012, includes interview), US artist brings alive Kolkata street in 3D ('The Indian Express, 2014, includes interview), World class 3D murals change landscapes of Bhubaneswar (The Statesman, 2018, "Tracy Lee Stum, who had visited Bhubaneswar twice earlier as an ‘Arts Ambassador’ of the US Government and conducted workshops at Bakul, agreed to curate a 3D mural project with other celebrated artists, all currently based in the USA"), 3D mural magic on Bhubaneswar street walls (The Telegraph, 2018). Beccaynr (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - Stum's work appears in The Art of Deception: Illusions to Challenge the Eye and the Mind (2014). Beccaynr (talk) 01:52, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - via ProQuest, sources include: "Artist's 3-D designs have staying power" (South China Morning Post, 2010, ), "Artist goes beyond the surface" (Telegram & Gazette, 2010, ), "Chalking a wonder in 3-D" (The Hindu, 2015, ), "From dust, to dust" (Indian Express, 2009, ), "La engañosa profundidad de una obra de arte" (La Estrella de Panamá, 2017, ), "Atlantic City streets decorated with chalk art" (McClatchy - Tribune Business News, 2013, she was also the curator for this), "They'll Be Painting the Town Red -- and Every Other Color, Too" (Wall Street Journal, 2006,  includes "Consider Ms. Stum's painting from last year, an original concept she called "Medici Garden" - she was the featured artist that year). There seems to be a fair amount of international coverage over time focused on her and her work - some more in-depth than others, but I have tried to pull some of the more substantial from the two pages of solid ProQuest results that might help further develop the article and support notability. Beccaynr (talk) 02:18, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - per WP:BASIC and the combination of international coverage focused on her and her work over time that includes context and commentary. I share 's concern about reproduced marketing copy, e.g. Time Out, 2021, and the depth in a source such as CNN noted above, but there appears to be more focus on her and her work in other sources I have found that supports her WP:BASIC notability as an artist. Beccaynr (talk) 03:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Please note @Liz one delete switched to keep after this was relisted. CT55555 (talk) 05:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for drawing my attention to that change, CT55555. Liz Read! Talk! 06:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


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